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Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

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demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
CR 3 makes sense to me. The giant stag beetle, which is CR 4, has six less hp but an AC 4 higher and much stronger offenses.
 

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Shade

Monster Junkie
I did a bit more searching, and apparently they are "largely tropical", so I'll change to "Temperate or warm forests".

Let's stick with DC 30 like the giant dragonfly and giant firefly.

Updated.

Check out this link for lots of facts: http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/compendium/stick.html

"In some parts of the tropics, stick insects may be so abundant that eggs falling out of the trees may sound like rain on a tin roof."

I'd say that rules out solitary only. ;)
 


Shade

Monster Junkie
Sounds good. Updated.

Do we want to do anything fun with this?

"Females do not have a well-developed ovipositor so they cannot insert their eggs into host plant tissue like most other Orthoptera. Instead, the eggs are dropped singly onto the ground, sometimes from great heights."

"In some parts of the tropics, stick insects may be so abundant that eggs falling out of the trees may sound like rain on a tin roof. "

What about this?

"Glands located on the thorax of many species can produce a foul-smelling liquid that repels predators."
 



freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Sickened for 1d4 sounds good to me, but what about as an aura, like a troglodyte? Do these actually squirt the stuff?
 

demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
"Generally, phasmids rely on camouflage to evade predators, however, a number of species use active defences. Some species (e.g. Eurycantha) have large spines on the legs. By rapidly bringing their legs together the insects can use their spines to inflict a painful wound. Some species are also capable of making a loud, startling, hissing noise using their wings. Other species have brightly coloured wings, which they can flash to alarm predators. A number of species, such as Anisomorpha buprestoides, can produce a defensive spray capable of causing temporary blindness in humans, as well as much discomfort."

Sounds like either a ranged touch attack or a cone. Also, we may want to make its primary attacks kicks with powerful barbed hind legs. More flavorful than biting.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Yeah, agreed on the kick.

I'd like to go with a cone, then, for the spray. And blindness for 1d4 rounds rather than sickened. Sound good?
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
So...

Attack: Kick/leg-spines +8 melee (1d8+3)?
Full Attack: Kick/leg-spines +8 melee (1d8+3) and 2 claws +3 melee (1d2+1)?

Or should that be two kicks and drop the claws?

Defensive Spray (Ex): Once every 1d4 rounds(?), x-foot cone, blindness for 1d4 rounds, Reflex(?) DC X negates. The save DC is Constitution-based.
 





Shade

Monster Junkie
We're a long way from done. Just look at all those x's! ;)

A giant walking stick is 8 feet long and weighs x pounds. Coloration varies from brown to green, or even yellow.

Training a giant walking stick as a mount requires a successful Handle Animal check (DC 30). Giant walking stick eggs are worth x gp on the open market. Professional trainers charge x gp to tame a giant walking stick.

Carrying Capacity: A light load for a giant walking stick is up to 258 pounds; a medium load, 259-519 pounds; and a heavy load, 520-780 pounds. A giant walking stick can drag x pounds.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Argh, the x, the x! :p

100 lb?

200 gp, 1000 gp? Anyone know of a good equivalent for these?

drag 3900 lb. (usually you can drag 5x high end of heavy load)
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
Anyone know of a good equivalent for these?
Giant Dragonfly eggs are worth 500 gp on the open market. Professional trainers charge 300 gp to tame a giant dragonfly. (A&EG version)

Giant firefly eggs are worth 300 gp on the open market. Professional trainers charge 300 gp to tame a giant firefly.

A properly trained dragonfly mount is worth 4,000 gp on the open market. (Dragon Mag version)
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Bump the eggs to 400 gp and put training at 600 gp? So a trained mount is worth 1000gp plus maybe a little markup (say 1200gp)?
 



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