Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

[freyar]

Yes, let's leave the wing buffets as normal attacks.

Ready for skills? I believe we were giving them both a racial bonus for Hide and for Spot and the great boobrie one for Intimidate. How about we make the Hide and Spot bonus +4 each and Intimidate +6?

 

[Cleon]

Yes, let's leave the wing buffets as normal attacks.

Ready for skills? I believe we were giving them both a racial bonus for Hide and for Spot and the great boobrie one for Intimidate. How about we make the Hide and Spot bonus +4 each and Intimidate +6?

Well the "feather fluffing" Intimidation was just flavour text, so I don't think it need be that high.

Maybe +4 for them all?

 

[freyar]

+4 for all of them is fine with me.

Split the skill points between Listen and Spot for both boobries? (I'd put the extra 1 rank in Spot for the black boobrie). Your thoughts?

 

[Cleon]

+4 for all of them is fine with me.

Split the skill points between Listen and Spot for both boobries? (I'd put the extra 1 rank in Spot for the black boobrie). Your thoughts?

My thoughts is that most of the SRD birds have far more ranks in Listen than in Spot. The eagle and hawk don't have any Listen ranks at all.

Also, we'll need to give them a useful degree of stealth skill.

 

[freyar]

You mean more ranks in Spot than Listen? Owls seem to have comparable ranks in both. I guess it depends on which sense we want them to use. So I won't object to putting all ranks into Spot or some such.

 

[Cleon]

You mean more ranks in Spot than Listen? Owls seem to have comparable ranks in both. I guess it depends on which sense we want them to use. So I won't object to putting all ranks into Spot or some such.

The SRD Owl has 2 ranks apiece in Listen and Spot and the SRD Giant Owl has 5 ranks in Listen and 2 ranks in Spot.

The SRD Hawk and Eagle has all its ranks in Spot and the Giant Eagle has 2 ranks in Listen and 7 ranks in Spot.

For the Boobrie, I'd prefer a more even distribution - maybe a +4 racial bonus to Spot plus Alertness?

Something like...

Feats: Alertness plus 3 more
Racial Bonuses: +4 Hide, +4 Intimidate, +4 Spot
Skill Ranks: Hide 3, Listen 4, Move Silently 3, Spot 2
=>
Skills: Hide +9, Intimidate +3, Listen +6, Move Silently +7, Spot +10

Hmm, I think we'd better give it Charisma 10 like a Giant Eagle / Giant Owl so it's Intimidate isn't penalized.

 

[freyar]

Agreed to Cha 10. Skills look fine, too.

Alertness, Power Attack, maybe Weapon Focus (bite), ?

 

[Cleon]

Agreed to Cha 10. Skills look fine, too.

Alertness, Power Attack, maybe Weapon Focus (bite), ?

Not sure about Power Attack, since its attack bonus isn't that great, but I haven't got any better idea at the moment.

How about Multiattack for the last feat?

 

[freyar]

Multiattack will work.

Use Alertness and Weapon Focus for the black boobrie? How did you want to do the black boobrie's skills? Spot 5 ranks, Listen 2?

 

[Cleon]

Multiattack will work.

Hold on, the last skill draft didn't include the Size Adjustment in Hide. It should be:

Boobrie #1
Abilities: Str 20, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 10
Feats: Alertness, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite) plus one
Skills: Hide +5, Intimidate +3, Listen +8, Move Silently +7, Spot +10
racial adjustments: +4 racial bonuses to Hide, Intimidate, Spot

Hmm, I'm going to change my mind and go for Stealthy. IIRC, the AD&D Boobrie is described as having weak claw attacks but being sneaky. I'd also balance out the stealth skills by shifting a point from MS to Hide.

Boobrie #2
Abilities: Str 20, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 10
Feats: Alertness, Stealthy, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite)
Skills: Hide +8, Intimidate +4, Listen +8, Move Silently +8, Spot +10
racial adjustments: +4 racial bonuses to Hide, Intimidate, Spot

Use Alertness and Weapon Focus for the black boobrie? How did you want to do the black boobrie's skills? Spot 5 ranks, Listen 2?

Those feats are OK, but that gives it a better Spot than the "Great Boobrie". I'm still wondering whether to give them some Stealth skills.

How about Hide 2, Listen 3, Spot 2, so its Spot's the same as its bigger cousin?

Black Boobrie
Abilities: Str 14, Dex 17, Con 12, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 10
Feats: Alertness, Weapon Focus (bite)
Skills: Hide +5, Intimidate +4, Listen +7, Spot +10
racial adjustments: +4 racial bonuses to Intimidate, Spot