coup de grace rules

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Anyways, my DM uses the "Roll and dont fumble" approach. Honestly i dont care what everyone else thinks about this cause its not going to change... I dont see why everyone is still arguing ove this b/c everyone has their own rules and opinions over the topic. No one is wrong on the matter, you just have your own views... I say you should do whatever is most comfortable for you. HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!
 

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irdeggman said:
Nope, fumbling is a variant rule on pg 28 of the 3.5 DMG.

A 1 is in automatic miss not a fumble without a variant rule.

Also there is no core mechanic for "aiming" either.

A natural 1 is always a miss or failure on a saving throw while a natural 20 is always a hit or a success on a saving throw. These are the only "automatics". But note this only applies when a roll is made - there are times when no roll is required (like for instance a CdG) or a spell with no save.

perhaps that's how it works d20 style, but come on, you can always mess up
 

Kapalen said:
perhaps that's how it works d20 style, but come on, you can always mess up

I see you are new to the boards. Allow me to point something out: This is the rules forum. Here, we discuss the rules. If someone asks a question, we refer to the rules. If the rules don't make sense, we generally shrug and say, "oh well, that's the rules for ya." In this neck of the woods, we're not interested in whether the rules would make any sense if we were forced to live by them for real. We're interested in consistency and correct interpretation. Plausibility is a subject for another section of the boards, often the House Rules section, which is where you go when the rules don't match your idea of "believable rules" and you want to patch them up.

But according to the rules, no, you can't mess up when performing a coup de grace. Whether this is believable is not relevant to the question of whether it is the rule. While the question of whether it is believable is certainly not a bad question, this really isn't the best place to bring up that issue. There are other sections of these message boards for that. This section is for people to find out what the rules say on a subject, or to get opinions on how to interpret rules that are not clear. In other words, this board is specifically for determining "how it works d20 style".

Also, welcome to ENWorld. :)
 


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