D&D 3.x Creature Collection II 3.5 Update A-S Complete

[Nightfall]

I would point out there are vermin that have int scores. My preference probably would be to make them Aberrations or possibly, monstrous humaniods. The others don't really work except Vermin but as you stated, it's not in tune with the type.

If I had to be pinned down, Monstrous Humaniod with Shapechanger AND Swarm subtype.

 

[BOZ]

vermin can have Int scores, just as oozes and plants can. most don't, however.

 

[Knight Otu]

I have chosen Aberration, myself.

Vermin Host, Cockroach: Aberration; 5 ft./5 ft.; Hide +5, Listen +6, Move Silently 5, Spot +6, Survival +5; Toughness, Track; LA +3; Saves become Fort +5, Ref +2, Will +5; Split allows the Vermin Host to take the form and abilities of a xxx swarm; Gains Shapechanger subtype.
Vermin Host, Leech: Aberration; 5 ft./5 ft.; Hide +6, Listen +3, Move Silently +6, Spot +3, Swim +10; Stealthy, Toughness, LA +3; Saves become Fort +3, Ref +2, Will +3; Split allows the Vermin Host to take the form and abilities of a xxx swarm; Gains Shapechanger subtype.
Vermin Host, Rat: Aberration; 5 ft./5 ft.; Climb +9, Escape Artist +2, Hide +6, Listen +4, Move Silently +6, Spot +4, Swim +1; Stealthy; LA +2; Saves become Fort +2, Ref +2, Will +4; Split allows the Vermin Host to take the form and abilities of a xxx swarm; Gains Shapechanger subtype.
Vermin Host, Spider: Aberration; 5 ft./5 ft.; Balance +3, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +3, Forgery +2, Gather Information +3, Hide +3, Listen +4, Move Silently +3, Sense Motive +2, Spot +4; Alertness, Weapon Focus (bite); LA +2; Saves become Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +4; Split allows the Vermin Host to take the form and abilities of a xxx swarm; Gains Shapechanger subtype.

Obviously, my versions are incomplete, as I've noted before. I'd argue that Vermin Hosts would make nice templates, but since I've been too lazy myself...

 

[Nightfall]

Nice job Otu. I like your idea.

 

[Vraille Darkfang]

I'm going to go with Aberration myself.

I want them all to be the same type, and as Rat isn't a vermin, Vermin gets dropped out.

I might use your stats as a starting point Knight Otu, if that's OK.

 

[Nightfall]

V,

I think that's a good way to go.

 

[Knight Otu]

I might use your stats as a starting point Knight Otu, if that's OK.

Sure. If I minded, I wouldn't have posted them in the first place.

 

[Vraille Darkfang]

Ok:

I've posted through Stormchild.

I left Spectral Plant alone. As it is a Hazard, Lacks a CR & is clearly in need of some wrok to determine what the CR's should be. (I might come back to it in the end).

Again, this is not a full-blown conversion. Just updating the critters til they mesh with the 3.5 rules. If I tried to bring everything up to a full 3.5 Stat Block, ECL's for everything that could be ac haracter, or Monster as Characters sections, It'd take me forever.

I'm just doing what I need to use this book in my games.

Thanks,

 

[Nightfall]

V,

You do what you can do. That's all I want to see.

 

[Vraille Darkfang]

All the S's are finally finished.

I'm really getting tired of how to figure out what to do with an Outsider's 8+In mod Skill Points. It sometimes gets really hard to find the best place to dump them.