Crying Freeman

[Animal]

for those who didn't watch that crap - it's about a professional killer who reflexively shed tears after each and every killing. not that i was a big fan but this build just resembles Freeman perfectly. here it is.

Hellbred (spirit)
hexblade 4/ binder 3/ KotSS 5
Patron Vestige (Focalor) naturally.
+ Dark companion variant feature (PHB II)

first i just wanted to make a kick-ass debuffer but then i've noticed that this build has fantastic flavour. a horrible sinner in his previous life he comes back seeking redemption. his sole purpose now is eliminating all evil (all demons, all outsiders, all magic? may vary). but he weeps over his victims because he knows what's it like - to die unredeemed.

what i want of you guys is more flavour. what feats, equipment, spells (hexblade gets three 1st level ones iirc) can emphasize this feel? any optimizing suggestions will be appreciated also.
thanks in advance!

 

[Starbuck_II]

for those who didn't watch that crap - it's about a professional killer who reflexively shed tears after each and every killing. not that i was a big fan but this build just resembles Freeman perfectly. here it is.

Hellbred (spirit)
hexblade 4/ binder 3/ KotSS 5
Patron Vestige (Focalor) naturally.
+ Dark companion variant feature (PHB II)

first i just wanted to make a kick-ass debuffer but then i've noticed that this build has fantastic flavour. a horrible sinner in his previous life he comes back seeking redemption. his sole purpose now is eliminating all evil (all demons, all outsiders, all magic? may vary). but he weeps over his victims because he knows what's it like - to die unredeemed.

what i want of you guys is more flavour. what feats, equipment, spells (hexblade gets three 1st level ones iirc) can emphasize this feel? any optimizing suggestions will be appreciated also.
thanks in advance!

Hexblade aren't they non-good? Doesn't that mess with the being a repenant sinner?

 

[Animal]

i don't follow your logic here. does he have to be good to repent? i think LN or N will do. anyway CE to LG alighment shifts are kinda stupid don't you think?

back on topic, please?

 

[Thurbane]

Wow, way to ask for feedback and then tear into the first person who gives you some...

 

[Animal]

was i offensive? umm.. well, i apologize starbuck. didn't realize that. and didn't mean to.
now i know why this thread's been so silent - no advice to rude people.

 

[Thurbane]

It's OK, sometimes the best of intentions get lost in translation in the text of an internet forum. I thought you were being rude, but now I can see that you probably weren't. My apologies.

As for the flavour of your build, I thinks it's very good. I'll have a think about some suggestions for feats and items and post them up tomorrow.

 

[Animal]

It's OK, sometimes the best of intentions get lost in translation in the text of an internet forum.

it's double jeopardy for me cause english is not my native language. i just ment to say that alignment shifts from CE to good are not credible imo. a sinner can't suddenly become a goody two shoes just because he repented.

I'll have a think about some suggestions for feats and items and post them up tomorrow.

thanks. what i've come up with as of now: falchion of sudden stunning and resounding blow for CHA synergy.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

it's double jeopardy for me cause english is not my native language. i just ment to say that alignment shifts from CE to good are not credible imo. a sinner can't suddenly become a goody two shoes just because he repented.

This is off-topic, but since English is not your native tongue I mean this in a spirit of helpful advice. I also thought your reply was rude ... but it wasn't your question to the poster. It was the "Back on topic, please." That wreaks of sarcasm, and it is a phrase that around here normally means something along the following lines: "Your post is irrelevant to my purposes." My guess is that you didn't mean that, but it is often how it is interpreted. Part of the problem with posting online is that tone and inflection aren't heard. As a reader, though, I do appreciate your apology and appreciate that you may not have meant how the words were read.

Back on Topic:
I have always understood the word Repent as coming out of the Hebrew tongue and literally meaning "turn around." So, if I am walkin down the street, forget something, and turn around then I have literally "repented of my course of action to take another one." So no, one need not turn good to repent. One merely needs to change direction to a new direction. One can repent from evil to good. One can repent from good to evil. One can certainly also repent from one kind of evil to another kind of evil.

As to the flavor, nice character. One thought, though. If in his previous life he was evil and obviouslynow has a second chance ... why not have him weep hopefully in that his victims might also get the second chance that he had? [Obviously not outsiders ... but anything of the Prime Material Plane should qualify for the same second chance as the character received, no?]

 

[Animal]

It was the "Back on topic, please." That wreaks of sarcasm, and it is a phrase that around here normally means something along the following lines: "Your post is irrelevant to my purposes."

now i understand. i didn't mean it in that way and i hope Starbuck didn't take offence. he helped me out a couple of times in other topics and i do appreciate that.

So no, one need not turn good to repent. One merely needs to change direction to a new direction.

agreed.

If in his previous life he was evil and obviouslynow has a second chance ... why not have him weep hopefully in that his victims might also get the second chance that he had?

sounds like a good option too, but i imagine him as a more grim and dramatic type (he's hexblade after all). he's a wretched and tortured soul and although he repented and renounced his previous vile life, he is not a saint. he is only a clueless puppet in the hands of powerful good-aligned entities who tricked him into going on a killing spree once more, this time for the sake of indulgence of his sins. so he weeps because he has to murder again and this time he feels for his victims even though they are most certainly evil and deserve to die by the laws of good.
i can see there a broad field for reflection and inner struggle. "why do i have to kill again? how come that blood on my hands can only be washed away by even bigger volumes of blood? it doesn't make sense, it's a vile circle. gods do not want a reborn man i want to become, they want a murderer who i hoped i'll never be again". so this is what doesn't let him turn to good wholeheartedly - he feels used and forces of good seem no different from evil in their methods. thus he is inclined to neutrality - all he wants is serenity. and he kills reluctantly because its the only way to get to the place of his last rest.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

he is only a clueless puppet in the hands of powerful good-aligned entities who tricked him into going on a killing spree once more, this time for the sake of indulgence of his sins. so he weeps because he has to murder again and this time he feels for his victims even though they are most certainly evil and deserve to die by the laws of good.

Huh. Doesn't sound like a god of good to me. But then again, I define "good" slightly differently. Good people don't want puppets around them. In my world, that's more of an evil trait. However, that's the world I game in ... certainly not necessarily your world. I meant no judgment by this, just interested in comparing worlds.

I still do like your character concept really well. It shows some excellent thought behind character design and motivation.