D&D 5E D&D and who it's aimed at

[billd91]

OK, so you guys defending capitalism here with respect to going for what's popular - you're pretty much making the same arguments used for Hollywood making so few movies with minority protagonists and why there are so few products catering to them on store shelves across much of the US.
So, you might want to reexamine that a bit and just how much following the rules of the capitalist game leads to marginalization - marginalization, I might add, that WotC's and other corporations' diversification efforts are actively fighting against.

 

[Scribe]

When did we ever have Conan-esque S&S D&D? Wizards, clerics, elves , and dwarves have all been right there front and center from the beginning.

I dont know.

 

[Minigiant]

WotC cannot aim for everyone. For example, they cannot aim for racists, since people who oppose racism would stop buying their products. Certain groups are mutually exclusive.

Agree to disagree. But feel free to @ me when we get Conan-esque sword and sorcery again and tell me I was wrong, or when Planescape hits and its all about Alignment, Planes, and petty debates between Gods.

This is not a case of not being aimed for but the target moving themselves out

If the only thing a person likes is super-niche or extremely exclusionary then it gets past a point when the provider is not look and the subject is hiding.


There is more to Sword and Sorcery than Conan and more to Epic Fantasy than Lord of the Rings. If you can only find joy in one specific version of a tone, genre, or flavor and you can't piece together a facsimile nor wait on the queue with your number then it's really not on WOTC.

All you can complain to them about really is the line moving way too slow.

 

[Scribe]

All you can complain to them about really is the line moving way too slow.

And here we are.

 

[Grendel_Khan]

Agree to disagree. But feel free to @ me when we get Conan-esque sword and sorcery again and tell me I was wrong, or when Planescape hits and its all about Alignment, Planes, and petty debates between Gods.

You know there’s a whole Conan RPG with lots of support and a very good system that’s tuned to sword & sorcery content and playstyles. It’s even called Conan!

It just isn’t D&D.

I mean, I know I’m a broken record, but there are so many games out there, and so many publishers that aren’t WotC….

 

[Scribe]

You know there’s a whole Conan RPG with lots of support and a very good system that’s tuned to sword & sorcery content and playstyles. It’s even called Conan!

It just isn’t D&D.

I mean, I know I’m a broken record, but there are so many games out there, and so many publishers that aren’t WotC….

Totally, and some really cool 3rd party products, but this is about the ongoing shift Wizards is putting forward, in their capitalist desire (nay mandate!) to make money.

 

[Irlo]

I dont know.

That’s certainly a picture. I’m actually interested in an answer to the question. When has D&D provided an Conan-like S&S gaming experience for you?

 

[Grendel_Khan]

Totally, and some really cool 3rd party products, but this is about the ongoing shift Wizards is putting forward, in their capitalist desire (nay mandate!) to make money.

I hear you, but this is such an unbelievably lost cause. If all you’re hoping to do is rile up WotC stans and get them to embarrass themselves extolling the virtues of corporate capitalism while also unintentionally revealing their total disinterest and disdain toward any RPG publisher who isn’t making bland fantasy for maximum market share…

Hmm. Actually, carry on.

 

[Scribe]

That’s certainly a picture. I’m actually interested in an answer to the question. When has D&D provided an Conan-like S&S gaming experience for you?

Right there. Dark Sun. The most recent attempt would be 2 pages out of the last Ravenloft book, around 'Dark Fantasy', I believe with little to no art contribution for setting the tone (I dont own the book, just flipped through.)

 

[Micah Sweet]

That’s certainly a picture. I’m actually interested in an answer to the question. When has D&D provided an Conan-like S&S gaming experience for you?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Dark Sun, which that picture is associated with. That's my answer to the question.