D&D Beyond: Infernal Options in MTOF
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MonsterEnvy
Legend
Archdevil and Archdemons from OotA are confirmed to be in.
Tiefling subraces are still in, but changed based on feedback, how is not elbrated upon.
Cults are mentioned as are Cambion variants. The MM Cambion is seen as Seductive one, a Grazzt/Succubus style Cambion, the new Cambions are based on other traits like fiends that are strong instead of seductive. Pure speculation on my part related to that, but I'm betting their is one Cambion whose main thematic trait is being gross and ugly, slimy perhaps, something Jubiliex or a Sibeliex Demon might produce with a mortal.
Also confirmed new none archfiend Yugoloths, Devils, Demons.
Tiefling subraces are still in, but changed based on feedback, how is not elbrated upon.
Cults are mentioned as are Cambion variants. The MM Cambion is seen as Seductive one, a Grazzt/Succubus style Cambion, the new Cambions are based on other traits like fiends that are strong instead of seductive. Pure speculation on my part related to that, but I'm betting their is one Cambion whose main thematic trait is being gross and ugly, slimy perhaps, something Jubiliex or a Sibeliex Demon might produce with a mortal.
Also confirmed new none archfiend Yugoloths, Devils, Demons.
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"chapter that are specifically for players, we delve into ways that your tiefling, that you play could be shaped by a connection to a particular ruler of hell. Now tieflings are not the children of those rulers, but they can be shaped by the fiendish influence of the particular rulers and the layer of hell that those rulers are from. And so as people saw on Unearthed Arcana, we provide ways of customizing your tiefling to say, "Well my tiefling is somehow connected to Mephistopheles. And because of that, I have a different magical options from other tieflings."
And a number of these options have been tweaked as a result of play test feedback we got after the Unearthed Arcana.
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And a number of these options have been tweaked as a result of play test feedback we got after the Unearthed Arcana."
This is the relavent part to players.
And a number of these options have been tweaked as a result of play test feedback we got after the Unearthed Arcana.
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And a number of these options have been tweaked as a result of play test feedback we got after the Unearthed Arcana."
This is the relavent part to players.
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Kobold Avenger
Legend
I really don't like that they're treating Tieflings as only being of Devilish bloodlines, when before they were also possibly Demonic or Yugoloth or other fiendish bloodlines. I know they state somewhere else that the Planescape Tieflings are Planetouched and therefore a different race, but there's no suggestion there would be a planetouched race in this book.
I agree it seems unlikely plane touched will be in the book.
FlyingChihuahua
Hero
I'm sad there's no Abyssal Tieflings.
I was playing an Abyssal Tiefling Paladin in a game and it would've been nice to have it be official.
I was playing an Abyssal Tiefling Paladin in a game and it would've been nice to have it be official.
Bitbrain
ORC (Open RPG) horde ally
I suspect that WOTC are approaching it (at least for the moment) as Tiefling = Devil ancestry, while Cambion = Demon ancestry.
Yaarel
Mind Mage
Makes sense. In reallife Arthurian traditions, Merlin is a ‘cambion’ because he is the son of a human mother and an incubus.
On the other hand, the preview to Mordenkeinens suggest the cambion is the offspring of an human and any fiend, whether demon, devil, or yugoloth.
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UnknownDyson
Explorer
They were in name only. All of the flavor and mechanical options suggested that they were infernal historically. You were limited to role playing an abyssal or other fiendish origin or you could homebrew but all of the abilities associated with tieflings have always said things like infernal bloodline, fires of hell, etc. Nothing about Yugoloths or demons. If they come up with a playable demonic equivalent I don't think it will be cambion because they are actual fiends.
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Kobold Avenger
Legend
They only started saying that with Tieflings in 4e where they changed many things about them. Sure their name loosely derived from German roughly means Devil-Child (Teufelling). In 2e it was generally suggested that they were more like mutants with origins that could be fiendish, but then firmly settled on Fiendish once the Aasimar and Genasi were introduced and then later on in the Planewalkers Handbook Tieflings had random traits. That book was written after all by Monte Cook who seems to really like ambiguous origins and random tables. Cambions generally aren't playable, even if there's been small attempts to do that in previous editions.
MechaTarrasque
Hero
The fiendpact warlock is pretty much this as well. Except for the quasit option for chainlocks, pretty much everything else is heavy into devils. The mechanics (and bonus spells) of the GOO pact warlock fit someone involved with Demogorgon or Jubbilex better than fiend, and feypact makes more sense for Grazzt or Lolth (if you are using official subclasses, unofficially you could use Mike Mearls homebrew Lolth pact).
I also suspect they are keeping the "the Abyss=nihilistic evil" theme from 4e in 5e, so anyone having a demon as an ancestor is automatically bug&^%$ crazy (and thus not PC material, see gnolls as a further example).
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Hmm, to me it sounds like he is hinting that cambion will be a playable race. But I could easily be wrong.
No, Cambions can have any fiend ancestory.
Kobold Avenger
Legend
I think you're wrong, though he did specify cult blessings as being NPC only, but he didn't specify Cambions as being playable or as NPC only.
Jacob Lewis
Ye Olde GM
I thought D&D Beyond *was* the Infernal option...
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