OGL D&D Beyond is doing a OGL 1.2 FAQ on Twitter


One funny thing they are doing is trying to do sweeten the pot by suggesting they will add more editions to OGL, this obviously refers to the other edition that OGL 1.0a covered, 3e/3.5e, but it says editionS plur, so it's possible they offer 4e too and maybe even earlier editions too, I mean from their perspective why not, they don't give a naughty word about the old editions.

The more desperate WotC gets, the more we can squeeze them for!
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
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One funny thing they are doing is trying to do sweeten the pot by suggesting they will add more editions to OGL, this obviously refers to the other edition that OGL 1.0a covered, 3e/3.5e, but it says editionS plur, so it's possible they offer 4e too and maybe even earlier editions too, I mean from their perspective why not, they don't give a naughty word about the old editions.

The more desperate WotC gets, the more we can squeeze them for!
3E is already under the irrevocable OGL v1.0a.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
I'm honestly having trouble envisioning WotC going out of their way to create entirely new SRDs for the OGL v1.2. I mean, maybe they will in order to try and sweeten the deal, but I suspect that they just mean the 3.5 SRD, Modern SRD, and maybe the 3.0 SRD.
 



Remathilis

Legend
I'm honestly having trouble envisioning WotC going out of their way to create entirely new SRDs for the OGL v1.2. I mean, maybe they will in order to try and sweeten the deal, but I suspect that they just mean the 3.5 SRD, Modern SRD, and maybe the 3.0 SRD.
Didn't the GSL have some type of SRD attached to it? Something akin to examples of how to make a power, class, monster, etc? They could just release that
 


Jer

Legend
Supporter
Didn't the GSL have some type of SRD attached to it? Something akin to examples of how to make a power, class, monster, etc? They could just release that
The 4e GSL SRD was not an srd by our ogl understanding. It was basically a list of terms and powers that you could refer to in your own publications and a way to cite the rulebooks to point people at the relevant rules you were forbidden from reproducing.

It was garbage. The gsl was the worst part of 4e (a game I actually like). If you’re curious it's up on the internet archive.

 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Didn't the GSL have some type of SRD attached to it? Something akin to examples of how to make a power, class, monster, etc? They could just release that
You're right that there was a 4E SRD (two, in fact), but while it did have a few templates for making new powers and such, insofar as content from the Core Rules went it was really just a list of terms that you could reference, rather than things you could reproduce in full. The usage guidelines at the beginning go into it in more detail.

EDIT: The "SRD" file is the file released with the original GSL. The "4E_SRD" file was released with the revised GSL.
 

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Jer

Legend
Supporter
Thank you. I was out of 4e when the real gsl made its debut. Seems far less helpful than I had hoped..
Yah it stinks. If 4e had had a real srd there might still be support for it even under a more restricted gsl license.

But it worked the way wizards wanted it to work. They stopped publishing 4e and no Pathfinder type clones showed up so as far as they're concerned it worked.
 




Jer

Legend
Supporter
Well, sure. But if the GSL had been more like the OGL, you can bet there would have been something. Even if it had just been a labor of love.
Even if it had had a real srd I probably would have put out some stuff for it myself as a labor of love. Even under gsl restrictive rules.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Yeah, there's a reason you've never seen a 4e retroclone.
You've caught the gaze of Orcus!

 

see

Pedantic Grognard
Yeah, there's a reason you've never seen a 4e retroclone.
Sure I have, it's called Orcus.

It's true that the "4th Edition System Reference Document" was not remotely enough to build a retroclone on, on its own. However, if that SRD were to be released under the OGL 1.0a, that would actually help the Orcus people a lot, since they could attach their OGL 1.0a content to the 4e names.
 

You've caught the gaze of Orcus!

Sure I have, it's called Orcus.

It's true that the "4th Edition System Reference Document" was not remotely enough to build a retroclone on, on its own. However, if that SRD were to be released under the OGL 1.0a, that would actually help the Orcus people a lot, since they could attach their OGL 1.0a content to the 4e names.
Given it literally only released a week and a half ago, I think you can appreciate why I would say what I said.
 


That's uncalled for when you're discussing a product developed by a tiny third-party outfit that has (as far as I am aware) almost no associated promotional activity.

Heck, I don't even know what new D&D products are out half the time if I don't go check them out in a bookstore or my FLGS!

And in point of fact, the published book did, in fact, only come out this past January 9th.
 

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