I've got more than one finger.
Just because someone is doing worse doesn't equal absolution.
This is a very shallow and reductive a point of view. The truth is much more nuanced. The people who make up wotc probably genuinely do care. They’re also part of a system that puts very strong pressure toward pretty disastrously anti-social behaviors, like accommodating bigots just because they have power and/or you can make more money by doing so.Once again all these corporate pride geastures prove hollow, fake geastures. Its all PR. Same with every other movement they pretend to care about.
Can’t dive into the underlying stuff here, but yeah, this is both the exact problem with the very corporate driven modern American economic system, and exactly why companies like hasbro (which is an award winning company in terms of ethical business dealings) sometimes do things that seem very stupid and are very bad.You lay this out rather well. It is important to not think of "the company" as a person with a will. It is an economic and business entity with lots of entangled responsibilities. They are not, in general, free to act in any old way they please.
You lay this out rather well. It is important to not think of "the company" as a person with a will. It is an economic and business entity with lots of entangled responsibilities. They are not, in general, free to act in any old way they please.
Aiming to earn more is not stupid.Can’t dive into the underlying stuff here, but yeah, this is both the exact problem with the very corporate driven modern American economic system, and exactly why companies like hasbro (which is an award winning company in terms of ethical business dealings) sometimes do things that seem very stupid and are very bad.
I’m aware.Aiming to earn more is not stupid.
I really thought I’d made it clear that I was speaking generally, but I guess not.However, methods are not good, but inherently they are also not (very)bad.
Which is one of the behaviors that the corporate system strongly pressures individuals toward.It is the "do not rock the boat" approach.
A fiduciary is a person who holds a legal or ethical relationship of trust with one or more other parties (person or group of persons). Typically, a fiduciary prudently takes care of money or other assets for another person. One party, for example, a corporate trust company or the trust department of a bank, acts in a fiduciary capacity to another party, who, for example, has entrusted funds to the fiduciary for safekeeping or investment. Likewise, financial advisers, financial planners, and asset managers, including managers of pension plans, endowments, and other tax-exempt assets, are considered fiduciaries under applicable statutes and laws. In a fiduciary relationship, one person, in a position of vulnerability, justifiably vests confidence, good faith, reliance, and trust in another whose aid, advice, or protection is sought in some matter.: at p. 68  In such a relation, good conscience requires the fiduciary to act at all times for the sole benefit and interest of the one who trusts.
"Could." It could rain frogs, too.Oh I agree, but surely the fault in those cases rests on the States with those laws (with the negative stances on LGBTI issues), and not with the companies (who are actively trying to do something positive).
There is only so much you can do as a company. Companies hold a lot of economic clout, but it's nothing compared to the legal and economic (and military) clout of nations.
Turkey (at a minimum) could simply ban Hasbro products from sale in the country as 'LGBTI propaganda' under their morality laws (or simply make new laws). They certainly have form on this (banning LGBTI parades on 'moral' grounds, and banning LGBTI support groups and agencies for the same).
Even though Turkey does not have a specific bans on 'LGBTI propaganda' they do have 'offences against public morality' laws that could be used here (or attempted to be used) and that have already been used as justification to prohibit LGBTI marches and entities.
Hasbro doesnt want to poke that bear, and I can understand why.
I'm from the South not the West. Australia to be precise. Turkey is closer to Western Europe than I am."Could." It could rain frogs, too.
See, here you are still talking like you know Turkey and its politics better than the actual Turkish person who is saying that worst-case-scenario is all very unlikely. But I guess we can chalk it up to "Westerners know better than anyone else" and ignore people that actually live in other countries.
Murat has watched for years as LGBT people who face persecution in the Middle East have found refuge in his cosmopolitan neighbourhood of Istanbul.
Today, in the face of growing government hostility and vitriol from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan towards lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, the young gay man says he has just one wish: to leave.
"Before, there would be a wave of hatred and then it would calm down," said the 30-year-old computer engineer, his eyes piercing through a haze of cigarette smoke.
"Now, it's been going on for months, turning into a tsunami."
Targeted by Erdogan, Turkey's LGBT community face 'tsunami of hate' - France 24The immediate cause of Erdogan's fury was a student artwork depicting Islam's holiest site in Mecca draped in the LGBT rainbow flag.
Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu reported the arrest of "four LGBT freaks" over the display, condemning the "degenerates" in Twitter posts that got flagged for "hateful conduct".
Erdogan later told his female supporters not to listen to "those lesbians", adding there was "no such thing" as the LGBT movement in Turkey.
"It's a hate campaign" aimed at discrediting the student protests, said Can Candan, a documentary filmmaker and professor at Bogazici University.
The top Turkish institution has been spearheading the protests after Erdogan appointed a loyalist as its rector at the start of the year.
The controversial artwork prompted officials to shut down Bogazici's LGBT club, where Candan was a faculty adviser.
While there are no official figures, Turkey has slid down the LGBT rights index published by the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA).
Last year, Netflix cancelled the production of a Turkish series featuring a gay character after failing to win the government's permission to film.
In June, the French sporting goods retailer Decathlon became the target of Turkish media boycott campaign, after saying it stood in solidarity with the LGBT community.
And in April, Erdogan rallied to the defence of a top religious affairs official who linked homosexuality to the spread of diseases, amid the coronavirus pandemic.
And this outlines the problem inherent to the system. They are legally required to be scumbags. All publicly held companies are. They're not good guys. They're not your friend. They're not worthy of defense when they do scummy things.The Director of the company has fiduciary obligations to the shareholders. He cant take any course of action that breaches that obligation.
I was unaware that the DnDBeyond pride dice used Islamic holy places. Now I am
We know with certainty that rainbow iconography that doesn't include religious iconography is permitted. There's a list of companies that have done so.Please don't be snarky. You focus on how the analogy is not perfect, but miss the point - some places can still be extremely intolerant, and that can have repercussions on people who try to put good messages out.
Then we should stop doing business with those places instead of saying 'well we exist to make money, so it's okay to work with bigots and murderers'.Please don't be snarky. You focus on how the analogy is not perfect, but miss the point - some places can still be extremely intolerant, and that can have repercussions on people who try to put good messages out.
Bringing up religious iconography is not honest debate. It is a false pretense.