D&D General D&D: Literally Don't Understand This

[bedir than]

You're welcome at mine.

But I also play all sorts of games -- I'm currently running concurrent Radiant Citadel and Shadowdark campaigns. I don't believe one has to choose just tacos or pizza as the one meal they have to eat the rest of their lives. (I love both tacos or pizza, but god, that would be boring to eat only one meal forever.)

True! I edited my statement slightly.

But if people object so vehemently to these things I start to understand why women, POC, LGBTQ feel put off by flavors of the hobby.
Those that wouldn't welcome a middle aged glasses wearer certainly aren't going to accept an Arab-inspired hero from the Age of Science in Baghdad.

 

[Scribe]

With the exception of one edition, I bet most of the haters do eventually play the latest edition. Probably impossible to discern with an opt-in survey, though, which is the only tool fans have at their disposal.

In a game as simple to modify as D&D? Yeah sure. Play any edition, just modify to taste as intended.

 

[bedir than]

Right, I'm sure you would be ejected from the table once you brought out the reading glasses.

My son has laughed at my wife and I more than once for passing around an item to see who can read the expiration, I guess we too would be excluded from play.

/sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

People in this thread have called for shame on the WotC posse for including art with eyeglass wearers.

It's quite clear I'm not welcome at their able and mocking my feeling that way isn't welcoming either.

 

[Cadence]

Right, I'm sure you would be ejected from the table once you brought out the reading glasses.

I don't think I'd looked at the 1e DMG magic items in depth since I read Cugel Saga a decade or so ago. I totally had it in my head that the "Eyes of..." were glasses, but of course, following Vance's inspiration they're like contact lenses.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Whizbang, I'm not a bad person and I don't think you're a bad person either. I ask that you extend the same courtesy to me, please. Then, go back and consider what you're just wrote to me.

I am trying to help you. You complain that you are repeatedly being accused of being a bad person. If that's not who you are, you need to see if maybe you are expressing yourself in a way that doesn't express your intentions accurately.

There's no criticism implicit in what I've said.

 

[Tea Cozy]

I'd imagine they would look like cowboy boots.

(I did not understand why my grandpa wore 'heels' when I was a kid lol)

They looked like pumps or ankle boots with with low, thin heels. They didn't look like cowboy boots.

Persian Riding Shoes 17th c | World Textiles & Dress | Meg Andrews - Antique Dress and Textiles

 

[Scribe]

People in this thread have called for shame on the WotC posse for including art with eyeglass wearers.

It's quite clear I'm not welcome at their able and mocking my feeling that way isn't welcoming either.

I assume I have them blocked already, I dont think anyone is too serious about pieces of glass held in a wire, and breaking immersion.

Scattered evidence exists for use of visual aid devices in Greek and Roman times, most prominently the use of an emerald by Emperor Nero as mentioned by Pliny the Elder.<a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a>

The use of a convex lens to form an enlarged/magnified image was most likely described in Ptolemy's Optics (which survives only in a poor Arabic translation). Ptolemy's description of lenses was commented upon and improved by Ibn Sahl (10th century) and most notably by Alhazen (Book of Optics, c. 1021). Latin translations of Ptolemy's Optics and of Alhazen became available in Europe in the 12th century, coinciding with the development of "reading stones".

There are claims that single lens magnifying glasses were being used in China during the Northern Song dynasty (960–1127).<a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>28<span>]</span></a><a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>29<span>]</span></a>

Robert Grosseteste's treatise De iride (On the Rainbow), written between 1220 and 1235, mentions using optics to "read the smallest letters at incredible distances".<a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>30<span>]</span></a> A few years later in 1262, Roger Bacon is also known to have written on the magnifying properties of lenses.<a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>31<span>]</span></a><a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>32<span>]</span></a> The development of the first eyeglasses took place in northern Italy in the second half of the 13th century.<a href="Glasses - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>33<span>]</span></a>

 

[Micah Sweet]

So, I have realized, this kerfuffle is really what Radiant Citadel is about.

Radiant Citadel is a product created by diverse authors, saying, in effect, "Hey, you know, D&D can represent a lot of stuff. There's room for all sorts of different cultures we can depict here."

Taylor Swift, of all people, has effectively reminded us that there's still a big chunk of gamers out there who say, "No! D&D can only be My Thing! I will whine if the presentation doesn't match my old-fashioned, preconceived notions! I will not open my mind to how other people's stuff might actually be fun!"

To which I say... screw that! All you folks (here, and elsewhere on social media) whining about high heels? You just got WotC a sale! I just ordered Radiant Citadel. Physical and digital bundle. Direct from WotC, to minimize the middlemen taking a cut out of the corporate profits.

Because life is busy, it will, unfortunately, take me a while to find a time to run it, but now I will. Where appropriate, I will research music inspired by the cultures depicted within to play during the sessions. My wife loves to cook for games, and we'll aim to do meals inspired by those cultures...

And I'll make a half-dozen or so converts to multicultural D&D. Thank you for inspiring me.

You're welcome?

I really don't see why you seem resistant to people expressing their opinion that a particular product doesn't meet their aesthetic preferences, and speculating that the game's aesthetic in general is moving away from those preferences. That opinion is, after all, just as valid as yours.

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

This is the cover of GDQ1-7 Queen of the Spiders, 1986.

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Cheesecake in this period practically required stilettos.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The apparatus of Kwalish is a giant submersible crab robot powered by magic. One of the old TSR modules (I forget which) had a room that was magically kept cold where food was stored (a walk in freezer). Sending stones are walkie-talkies. D&D had all manner of anachronistic magical technology even before Eberron. And I'm old enough to remember when "robots and choo-choos" where going to kill D&D. In 2003.

(Actually, I'm old enough to remember how rapiers in the 3e PHB was considered too futuristic for D&D's "medieval timeframe", and don't even get me started on the arquebus in 2e's PHB. But there it was, in the equipment list next to bronze plate mail. D&D has been nothing of not anachronistic)

I still don't like rapiers, but it's mostly for mechanical reasons.