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Hi,

MerricB said:
* There will be 23 normal Rare figures in the set, instead of 20.
* There will be 21 Uncommon figures in the set, instead of 17.

The normal sets (Dragoneye and Archfiends) had 24 Uncommons each. So I can't see a point why they should short them to 21 and increase the number of rares to 23. Where do you got that Info?

Be seeing you,

Matthias Sylvester Nagy
 

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darkpact said:
The normal sets (Dragoneye and Archfiends) had 24 Uncommons each. So I can't see a point why they should short them to 21 and increase the number of rares to 23. Where do you got that Info?

Mike Donais, one of the designers. We know that there are 72 miniatures, 12 of them are Huge (6 "Rare" and 6 "Uncommon"). We know that there are 23 rares (up from 20) so that there is a parity between "Rare" Huges and actual rares.

Because of the way they are packaged, it makes sense for the 3 missing figures to come from the Uncommons. That is the only bit of speculation there - and I'm almost 100% sure it's correct.

Cheers!
 

Hmm - and you're right. It should have been "21 uncommons instead of 24" - I got a number wrong in my head.

Cheers!
 

MerricB said:
I didn't understand the "Cold Pizza" reference

Here in the USA, there is a sports cable network called ESPN. they have like 3-4 channels. Cold Pizza is the name of the morning show ESPN has. They had a little thing on DnD yesterday. They showed some of the new Giants of legend minis. Thats where that pic was from that someone else posted above. It was a big deal that a sports network was covering something like DnD, but it showed the WOTC is trying to tap new markets to get new players, thats a good thing.
I just hope they have the distrbution fixed. Dragoneye disrbution was really bad.
 
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Well, to look at the actual numbers:
Each "Rare" Huge: 1 per 24 packs
Each Normal Rare: 1 per 23 packs
Each "Uncommon" Huge: 1 per 8 packs
Each Normal Uncommon: 1 per 7 packs
Each Normal Common: 1 per 4 packs

You don't mean "per pack", I'm sure... 1 normal common per 4 packs! Score!

I'm not concerned with the rarity. Just the quality, and perhaps if I get too much of something highly rare, I hope I can sell it to earn back my costs like I did on the last sets.
 

Creamsteak said:
You don't mean "per pack", I'm sure... 1 normal common per 4 packs! Score!

Hehe. Actually, I do - but the "Each common" needs explanation.

Choose a common. Say, the "Sage" from Archfiends. You will get 1 Sage in every 4 packs (on average).

That's what the numbers mean. After 24 packs, on average (or on a perfect distribution) you would have 1 of each rare huge, 1 of each rare (+1 extra), 3 of each uncommon rare, 3.5 of each uncommon and 6 of each common.

I'm not concerned with the rarity. Just the quality, and perhaps if I get too much of something highly rare, I hope I can sell it to earn back my costs like I did on the last sets.

Yes, the quality is always a worry. Mind you, looking at the quality of the figures in Archfiends, and from the comments of the designers on matters of scaling, I think this will be an exceptional set. (If expensive to collect :()

Cheers!
 

MerricB said:
That's what the numbers mean. After 24 packs, on average (or on a perfect distribution) you would have 1 of each rare huge, 1 of each rare (+1 extra), 3 of each uncommon rare, 3.5 of each uncommon and 6 of each common.

That's also a bit misleading. Your chances of getting 1 particular rare by 24 packs of minis is high, but your chances of having one of each isn't. It's not about "a perfect distribution" as much as it comes down to the standard deviation. If it were not 6:00 AM here, I'd either punch it up on excel or do the equation to give you the chances that out of 24 packs you get the mean distribution.
 

Creamsteak said:
That's also a bit misleading. Your chances of getting 1 particular rare by 24 packs of minis is high, but your chances of having one of each isn't. It's not about "a perfect distribution" as much as it comes down to the standard deviation. If it were not 6:00 AM here, I'd either punch it up on excel or do the equation to give you the chances that out of 24 packs you get the mean distribution.

It's a really terrifying number as well. I've seen it worked out, and it is not pretty.

When I talk about a "perfect" distribution, I'm talking about getting no duplicates until the numbers warrant such... it's so far from actual distribution that you shouldn't count on it at all!

However, over enough packs, the numbers work out. Knowing the relative rarity of one figure to another in the entire world is important for trading.

Cheers!
 

As long as the common huge minis are ones that you can actually use multiple versions of (like giants, and please no rare huges that you want multiple copies from ;)), it would at least be somewhat ok. :)

Bye
Thanee
 

Hey as long as I can trade away the rares I don't use (anyone want a Mindflayer? Looking for Kobolds.) I will be more than happy to have several extra bulletes or Behiers.


:lol:

You should see my collection, its based off of the Monster Manual Orginzation charts.
 

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