D&D 5E D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

[FrogReaver]

Well this was a fun Meltdown!

 

[Stormdale]

For those (if any) opposed to more gay characters/inclusiveness of LBGT characters in D&D here is a speech from the NZ parliament in the debate prior to a vote to adopt legalising same sex marriages in 2013. The bill was passed and this is one of the best, and funniest, speeches made by an MP on the subject and maybe pertinent to the current debate- especially his final few comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRQXQxadyps

Stormdale

 

[Caliban]

Yep, probably. Hopefully the set of things about which that is true shrinks over time as you grow and mature, but who really knows?

It's interesting - people seem to go to one extreme or the other as they grow older. Either they cling to their beliefs more rigidly than ever, or they become increasingly open to new ideas and to changing their opinions.

Morrus says people with opinions like mine aren't welcome on Enworld, so see you folks around.

Sorry to see you go.

 

[FrogReaver]

@Morrus

You may want to consider revising your community header and rule statement to close some loopholes in it that technically are allowed by it but which you will be equally as unpleased with.

 

[Ancalagon]

No. It means, let's be inclusive without actively trying to promote an agenda.

Including gays characters = good.
Including gay characters in order to promote a certain ideology = bad.

but... isn't what Crawford is promoting? Inclusivity? (spelling?). It's a bit... difficult to parse that.

"Preventing forest fires is good, but only as long as it's not done to promote the prevention of forest fires!!!"

 

[FrogReaver]

but... isn't what Crawford is promoting? Inclusivity? (spelling?). It's a bit... difficult to parse that.

"Preventing forest fires is good, but only as long as it's not done to promote the prevention of forest fires!!!"

I think it's against the rules now to give a reply to this... at least if one disagrees with it. If one agrees it appears ya'll can high 5 each other all you want.

 

[Yaarel]

At least my group is, which has a mix of Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Lutherans. And two agnostics but we let them play anyway.

Some of us monotheists arent Christian, and arent comfortable with images.

 

[Caliban]

but... isn't what Crawford is promoting? Inclusivity? (spelling?). It's a bit... difficult to parse that.

"Preventing forest fires is good, but only as long as it's not done to promote the prevention of forest fires!!!"

It means preventing forest fires is good, but don't do it in a way that might make people who like setting fires feel like you are pressuring them.

Because that's just rude.

 

[Prakriti]

...see you folks around.

I'm sorry to see you go. I'm tempted to do the same, but I'm not sure I care enough to bother. And besides, I feel like when the opposition tries to silence you, you've won the argument anyways. So congratulations to us.

 

[Ancalagon]

I think it's against the rules now to give a reply to this... at least if one disagrees with it. If one agrees it appears ya'll can high 5 each other all you want.

Sorry, I was a bit behind in the thread...

I am also sorry to see Hemlock go. And I think that even though I strongly believe that [MENTION=56324]tombowings[/MENTION] was wrong, some people were pretty sloppy in how they presented his arguments/position and extrapolated it into something it wasn't.