D&D Wargaming: Evil OOC
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Even at half cost they can't afford to Forbid more than their stronghold and a few other key locations. You've got to be careful though because you can't stand up to them face-to-face.
Instead of fighting them directly, I think you'll be much more effective if you concentrate on economic warfare until another army or two comes online.
Stay away from their stronghold. Terrorize smaller nearby settlements, destroy the crops, burn down the buildings. Find their mines and collapse them (bury the miners alive if you can; they'll have to divert troops and try to rescue them). Never stay in the same place for more than a few minutes.
Make them spread themselves so thin trying to find you that when the other army comes online the majority of their force won't be in their stronghold.
Instead of fighting them directly, I think you'll be much more effective if you concentrate on economic warfare until another army or two comes online.
Stay away from their stronghold. Terrorize smaller nearby settlements, destroy the crops, burn down the buildings. Find their mines and collapse them (bury the miners alive if you can; they'll have to divert troops and try to rescue them). Never stay in the same place for more than a few minutes.
Make them spread themselves so thin trying to find you that when the other army comes online the majority of their force won't be in their stronghold.
Drakknyte32
First Post
Pyrex, Fieari sayed the good villages are about 1 day's horse ride apart from each other. Do you know how for that is? I think it's only a couple of hours flight for me but exact time would be useful.
If you don't think I should assault their leaders then I won't but I think I have a really good opportunity right now. They just wasted a bunch of spells and metamagic items killing me. I will be able to reach them before they can recharge. They have no idea what I am. And I can drain 12 levels in 1 round if I get lucky on attack rolls. I also have a very high hide skill, possibly enough to stop them from noticing me. If I can find them separated and pull off a full attack the first round I will have a major advantage.
At least that is how I saw things, If you can think of a good reason for me not to directly assault them then I'll listen.
In that case, what about the city? If I spent most of my time hiding and underground with the occasional rise to use my breath weapon I could do some major damage to their army. Or is that a bad idea as well.
If you don't think I should assault their leaders then I won't but I think I have a really good opportunity right now. They just wasted a bunch of spells and metamagic items killing me. I will be able to reach them before they can recharge. They have no idea what I am. And I can drain 12 levels in 1 round if I get lucky on attack rolls. I also have a very high hide skill, possibly enough to stop them from noticing me. If I can find them separated and pull off a full attack the first round I will have a major advantage.
At least that is how I saw things, If you can think of a good reason for me not to directly assault them then I'll listen.
In that case, what about the city? If I spent most of my time hiding and underground with the occasional rise to use my breath weapon I could do some major damage to their army. Or is that a bad idea as well.
"A days ride" is ~48 miles accd to the SRD. Keep in mind that those 48mi in between villages aren't empty, there will be plenty of farmsteads for you to ravage.
If their stronghold isn't heavily warded it's probably worth the effort to make one quick strike. You'll have to be very careful and hope you can catch them sleeping.
They've got enough low-level mages to put the hurt to you pretty quickly. One Dispel Magic followed by a volley of Magic Missiles and you're toast. That's why I want you to force them to spread out.![:]](http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png "Devious :]")
If their stronghold isn't heavily warded it's probably worth the effort to make one quick strike. You'll have to be very careful and hope you can catch them sleeping.
They've got enough low-level mages to put the hurt to you pretty quickly. One Dispel Magic followed by a volley of Magic Missiles and you're toast. That's why I want you to force them to spread out.
Drakknyte32
First Post
48 miles is about 1hour, 3minutes flight time for me. In one day I could wipe out over a dozen villages
My first look into their stronghold is strictly for scouting. If it is heavily warded or a bunch of low-level mages are hanging out I'm going to plan B.
Plan B is striking at the low-level troops and citizens of the city, especially the low-level mages. If I manifest underground, take a 5' step up' use my breath weapon, and move underground again I will be able to strike at them and retreat in 1 round. Just like they did to me. If I move around the city a lot and use my obscene hide skill they shouldn't be able to do much against me. The only way for them to beat me like this is have a whole lot of apprentices with redied actions waiting for me or for one of the commanders to show up and get lucky with a spell.
Fieari: Precisely how long does it take for me to reach the city. I desparately need to know if it is under 9 hours.
My first look into their stronghold is strictly for scouting. If it is heavily warded or a bunch of low-level mages are hanging out I'm going to plan B.
Plan B is striking at the low-level troops and citizens of the city, especially the low-level mages. If I manifest underground, take a 5' step up' use my breath weapon, and move underground again I will be able to strike at them and retreat in 1 round. Just like they did to me. If I move around the city a lot and use my obscene hide skill they shouldn't be able to do much against me. The only way for them to beat me like this is have a whole lot of apprentices with redied actions waiting for me or for one of the commanders to show up and get lucky with a spell.
Fieari: Precisely how long does it take for me to reach the city. I desparately need to know if it is under 9 hours.
Fieari
Explorer
I'm having you get there at Day 2: 9am sharp, from a starting point of midnight. I know that you probably should have gotten there a little sooner, but I'm delaying you a teensy bit due to my enlarged sense of drama... 9am has some interesting things going on, and the appearance of a ghostly dragon at that moment is just too good to pass up.
I'm going to attribute the delays to you losing your bearings slightly... you've got quite a few miles to go, you're travelling mostly underground so it's easy to get lost. Not very lost, but enough to delay you slightly.
Tactically, this gives neither side any real advantage or disadvantage that they'd've had if you showed up a little earlier. This way just looks cooler, is all.
I'm going to attribute the delays to you losing your bearings slightly... you've got quite a few miles to go, you're travelling mostly underground so it's easy to get lost. Not very lost, but enough to delay you slightly.
Tactically, this gives neither side any real advantage or disadvantage that they'd've had if you showed up a little earlier. This way just looks cooler, is all.
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Drakknyte32
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Actually 9 am sharp means that they would have just enough time to rest and restore their spells if they went to bed immediately upon getting back from my layer. It's unlikely they did that but I like to try and keep my bases covered.
Of course if I can cause more havoc at 9 then I'm all for it
Of course if I can cause more havoc at 9 then I'm all for it
Fieari
Explorer
Right now, you're mostly going after women and children, the elderly and the sick, since most of the city's able bodied men are listening to a speech... I'll be counting the death toll until the forces of good have the means to combat you. Unless you'd like to dive into that mass of able bodied men straight out of the gate, with the wizard watching you...
Fieari
Explorer
Oh, by the way... as to your purpose being the destruction of the Good forces... I'd MUCH rather have it be the return of your hoard.
Why?
1) It's cooler that way.
2) Your CR is greater than 20... that's practically epic. You need an artifact-like weakness, me-thinks.
I will specify that it needs to be your SPECIFIC hoard, and every single peice of it. The money has already been spent, and it's going to be scattered across the globe.
However, the Lich King is USING that to keep a hold on you. He knows you can't be free until your hoard is returned, so it is in his best interests to keep your hoard scattered across the globe, making it nearly impossible for the good guys to get it back. And if they DO get it back, it means dedicating a LOT of resources... and besides, there's more potential for conflict right there... lich's forces preventing the return of your hoard, good forces trying to return it.
And of course, if they DON'T try returning it, you always reform a number of days later.
I have images of a certain pirate movie stuck in my head now... hehe.
You are under the effect of a suggestion that makes you THINK your purpose is the destruction of the good armies though, so YOU don't have to actively seek your gold. It's just that if the gold is returned, you go away.
Satisfactory?
Please note that in ghostly form, you can still gather up an army of your own (and will)... it's just that your baseline will be darn low at first. You've got a little ways to go.
Why?
1) It's cooler that way.
2) Your CR is greater than 20... that's practically epic. You need an artifact-like weakness, me-thinks.
I will specify that it needs to be your SPECIFIC hoard, and every single peice of it. The money has already been spent, and it's going to be scattered across the globe.
However, the Lich King is USING that to keep a hold on you. He knows you can't be free until your hoard is returned, so it is in his best interests to keep your hoard scattered across the globe, making it nearly impossible for the good guys to get it back. And if they DO get it back, it means dedicating a LOT of resources... and besides, there's more potential for conflict right there... lich's forces preventing the return of your hoard, good forces trying to return it.
And of course, if they DON'T try returning it, you always reform a number of days later.
I have images of a certain pirate movie stuck in my head now... hehe.
You are under the effect of a suggestion that makes you THINK your purpose is the destruction of the good armies though, so YOU don't have to actively seek your gold. It's just that if the gold is returned, you go away.
Satisfactory?
Please note that in ghostly form, you can still gather up an army of your own (and will)... it's just that your baseline will be darn low at first. You've got a little ways to go.
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