In another of D&D Beyond's frequent data shares, here is a look at the most popular fighter subclasses currently in use. The Champion leads the pack, followed by Battlemaster, Eldritch Knight, Gunslinger, and Samurai.
This is exactly what I was thinking.Seeing the top 3 be the ones that are in the PHB is hardly surprising. The Champion being most popular is possibly in part down to it being the only one in the Basic Rules.
Whew so the stereotype of those player who "just want to play a plain fighter" (I got one at my table) is actually true. What I find amazing is that so many want to play a gunslinger or a samurai.
But the EK, Gunslinger,Samurai, AA block may suggest there is a huge block of people who want to play nontradional fighters.
You say the EK and AA are "non-traditional", but I think they're actually extremely traditional, and just the result of 5E having a multiclassing system that isn't very compatible with a lot of traditional D&D ideas, like the Fighter/Mage. Since D&D was fairly young, loads of people have wanted to play "gishes" and so on - characters who combine arcane magic and fighting. Some pre-AD&D versions had all Elves be that way, as a class, 1E and 2E had multi-classing (which worked really surprisingly well, looking back I'm shocked at how few balance problems it caused), 3E's MC system meant that it ended up having to develop specific classes and PrCs to allow this (because just stacking levels of Fighter and Wizard was pretty rubbish, mechanically). 4E had multiple specific classes which allowed it, including the totally wonderful Swordmage, perhaps the best incarnation of the "Fighter/Mage" in many ways. 5E saw the problem coming, and presumably after deciding to use a 3E-style MC system (booo! pretty sure there was a better one in one of the playtests), put in EK and AA to cover that issue.
The most interesting thing I see, personally, is that the Rune Knight, a UA class which is still playtest content, is about as popular as the Cavalier (a subclass that's been out much longer and is official) and way more popular than the Purple Dragon Knight, which has been out far, far longer and is official.
It's on DDB, so that may be the reason.Where is Gunslinger even located? I'll be honest I didn't know that existed anywhere but Pathfinder. I can't find it in any of my books, But I don't have Eberron. It doesn't appear to be in there either from what i can tell about the Eberron book. Was it just created for D&D Beyond? I have full access to it but I can't figure out what source it is from.
Where is Gunslinger even located? I'll be honest I didn't know that existed anywhere but Pathfinder. I can't find it in any of my books, But I don't have Eberron. It doesn't appear to be in there either from what i can tell about the Eberron book. Was it just created for D&D Beyond? I have full access to it but I can't figure out what source it is from.
Apparently 6% of players don't know that the Arcane Archer is a bag of Tarrasque droppings. I suspect they are playing it for concept and feel reasons, and not optimization. Sometimes it's hard to remember that not everyone white room's the ever-living crap out of the game.![]()
I really like the idea of an arcane archer. Just not the reality. I think you'd need to homebrew to get something that matches the concept that I (and I suspect you) are thinking about. I'd probably base it on Eldritch Knight and add something like the Paladin's smite to allow the archer to burn spell slots to gussy up his ranged attacks.
Yeah, I agree. Anytime you can put COOL and not game breaking together in the same sentence you're probably on to something.I'd give them some solid at-will options with fun, but minor, effect and then a handful of limited use effects, mostly stealing arrow spells from the Ranger.
There's no reason a level 3 Arcane Archer can't just make all their arrows inflict fire damage. Not even adding any damage to them, just BOOM! Now its a magical attack instead of a plain one. Nothing fancy, just some elemental damage. Fire Arrow, Lightning Arrow, Frost Arrow, Light Arrow... they're not game breaking but they would sound COOL and be evocative.
Yeah, I agree. Anytime you can put COOL and not game breaking together in the same sentence you're probably on to something.