D20 Past misuse of nonlethal damage

[Chaldfont]

I really like D20 Future and D20 Past, but come on, there are a lot of development mistakes. This is the most recent one I've found: In D20 Past, the Overland Movement section is a cut-n-paste directly from the D20 SRD with no modification for D20 Modern's version of nonlethal damage.

Oooh, my PC takes 1d6 points of nonlethal damage for an hour of forced march. In D&D, this would be a big deal. But in D20 Modern I can do this forever as long as my Con is higher than a 6.

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

Hrm. I'd have never noticed that because I use D&D style nonlethal damage instead of the Modern version.

I wonder how many of the game designers themselves do the same thing.

--fje

 

[Ranger REG]

I wonder how many of the game designers themselves do the same thing.

Isn't that what editors for?

 

[The Shaman]

Old news, Chaldfont.

This is just one of the many, many reasons that d20 Past sucks rocks.

BTW, my house rule for fatigue in Modern is to treat it as Con damage on a failed Fort save.

 

[Ranger REG]

This is just one of the many, many reasons that d20 Past sucks rocks.

Meh. While it may be inconsistent with the core d20 Modern rules, not many of us actually prefer the d20 Modern nonlethal damage rule.

 

[Roudi]

not many of us actually prefer the d20 Modern nonlethal damage rule.

Ain't that the truth. In fact, the first rules variants published in MODERNIZED Issue #1 were variants of d20 Modern's nonlethal damage system. I don't think I've found a single GM that uses them as-is.

 

[The Shaman]

I don't think I've found a single GM that uses them as-is.

*raises hand*

At least with respect to non-lethal damage from brawling and such - for environmental effects I do houserule it.

 

[Crothian]

Meh. While it may be inconsistent with the core d20 Modern rules, not many of us actually prefer the d20 Modern nonlethal damage rule.

Just because no one uses the rule doesn't make the mistake not a mistake though.

 

[Ranger REG]

*raises hand*

WHY am I not surprised?

 

[wingsandsword]

Meh. While it may be inconsistent with the core d20 Modern rules, not many of us actually prefer the d20 Modern nonlethal damage rule.

Here, here.

I love d20 Modern, mechanically I prefer it over D&D, although that's one of the places I have to go back and use the D&D version. Judging from d20 Past, I think many of the designers do too.