Dancey resigns as GAMA Treasurer

[Paradigm]

Apparently there've been more resignations. The board is disintegrating, and now there is a check to see if Dancey violated Federal Law or not. If Dancey wanted to render GAMA impotent, even destroyed, then this would do just that.

This is greatly overstatted. I would expect either an appointment or a special election to replace him.

 

[eyebeams]

This is greatly overstatted. I would expect either an appointment or a special election to replace him.

As the entire slate was connected to him, it puts their credibility as fairly elected officers into question whether or not they knew what was going on.

 

[Maggan]

People are bailing out of his open gaming mailing lists pretty quickly (according to the rpg.net thread, I'm not at my normal email to read those lists). Damaged may not be strong enough whether you think ruined is too strong.

As far as I can tell, only Bruce Baugh decided to bail out of the OGF lists. Some other people might have followed suit, but at least for now I'm not seeing mass migration from the lists.

I guess it comes down to whether the OGF lists are seen as Ryan Dancey's private forum.

I will continue to monitor the lists, as I don't see Ryan's actions here changing the fact that many good people are hanging there, at least not yet. I will certainly think hard aboout what he's saying when reading anything Ryan writes on the lists or on the Internet, much as I have before.

I think (hope?) that this will mostly affect Ryan himself, and not rub off on the d20 scene. Only time will tell.

Cheers!

Maggan

 

[Nisarg]

As the entire slate was connected to him, it puts their credibility as fairly elected officers into question whether or not they knew what was going on.

Needless to say I disagree. What happened with Ryan, the actual details of which are yet unclear, does not automatically tar the rest of the board.
It doesn't in ANY way change one fundamental truth: That Ryan, wrong or not about this email business, is still completely right about the problems GAMA had before, and regarding the solutions.
I hope the rest of the board can continue to work to promote this agenda, and that Ryan finds a suitable role to play, even if it must be behind the scenes.

Nisarg

 

[Paradigm]

As the entire slate was connected to him, it puts their credibility as fairly elected officers into question whether or not they knew what was going on.

There are current board members that were on the board last year. So the entire slate was not connected to him.

 

[Pramas]

It doesn't in ANY way change one fundamental truth: That Ryan, wrong or not about this email business, is still completely right about the problems GAMA had before, and regarding the solutions.

If you believe all the lies that Ryan and his cohorts have been spreading about GAMA for the last 8 months, maybe that's true. But let's just say there are large segments of the game industry that disagree with this "fundamental truth."

 

[Nisarg]

If you believe all the lies that Ryan and his cohorts have been spreading about GAMA for the last 8 months, maybe that's true. But let's just say there are large segments of the game industry that disagree with this "fundamental truth."

Well, see.. this is the one thing I'm feeling bad about, regaring this whole affair: that now the people who were rabid Dancey-haters can point to this incident and say "see? he's eeeeeeevil and therefore all his ideas must be tainted!!"

That's really the worst thing about what he did, that it is inevitably bound to be confused with the rightness or wrongness of the ideas he supports. And the enemies of those ideas will now be able to use his own pecadillo as a weapon against progress.

Nisarg

 

[BrooklynKnight]

For the misinformed, can sombody please post a summary of the "supposed" problems with GAMA that RYAN had, other problems, and so forth?

 

[Nikchick]

Given the incestous relationships that have existed within the organization in the past, I'm not certain the answer to those questions is 'yes' unless all are willing to brush the dust off of buried secrets and expose themselves to intense public scrutiny.

What "buried secrets" are those exactly? Do you have any actual information, or is this just speculation that "buried secrets" must exist somewhere because of the environment of innuendo and slander leading up to the last election?

I would welcome a lot more light being shed on things, and have nothing to hide from my four years serving on the GAMA Board of Directors.

 

[Rasyr]

There are current board members that were on the board last year. So the entire slate was not connected to him.

The "entire slate" is not the entire board. The retailer and distributor divisions appoint their own members to the board (i.e. they are not elected by the FVMs).

As for the rest, only the secretary was not part of their slate, IIRC. One or more of the board members who were on the board last year went up for re-election as part of that "slate". These were also the ones who were with Ryan on the fixGAMA website, supporting his proposed changes to GAMA before he ever became a GAMA member.