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Merkuri
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Wow, okay, this movie was awesome. Just saw it earlier today. It was great even though the theater we went to was having a minor sound problem so that every note above a certain pitch (even the phone ringing at one point) wavered like they couldn't keep the sound reel running at a constant speed. That wasn't how they made the movie, it was just in our theater, right?
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[sblock]When I saw Commissioner Gordan was shot in the middle of the movie I just knew he wasn't really dead simply because he wasn't Commissioner Gordon yet. I felt like there was no way they'd kill such a major character before even granting him the rank he had in the comics.
And, oh my god, Two-Face looked awesome. I almost didn't want to look, it looked so painful and so real. How the heck did they do that? If that was computer animation it was damn good! I took a course in computer graphics in college and I always find myself critiquing computer animation in movies since then, and this had me blown away. It must have been computers because there's no way you could've done that otherwise. (When we left the theater I mentioned this to Awayfarer, and he said that some actors gain or loose lots of weight for movies, so maybe they actually removed some of the actor's face...
) It just looked so real![/sblock]
More thoughts that contain spoilers:
[sblock]When I saw Commissioner Gordan was shot in the middle of the movie I just knew he wasn't really dead simply because he wasn't Commissioner Gordon yet. I felt like there was no way they'd kill such a major character before even granting him the rank he had in the comics.
And, oh my god, Two-Face looked awesome. I almost didn't want to look, it looked so painful and so real. How the heck did they do that? If that was computer animation it was damn good! I took a course in computer graphics in college and I always find myself critiquing computer animation in movies since then, and this had me blown away. It must have been computers because there's no way you could've done that otherwise. (When we left the theater I mentioned this to Awayfarer, and he said that some actors gain or loose lots of weight for movies, so maybe they actually removed some of the actor's face...
) It just looked so real![/sblock]
Klaus
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Re: Harvey: Make-up + CGI.Wow, okay, this movie was awesome. Just saw it earlier today. It was great even though the theater we went to was having a minor sound problem so that every note above a certain pitch (even the phone ringing at one point) wavered like they couldn't keep the sound reel running at a constant speed. That wasn't how they made the movie, it was just in our theater, right?
More thoughts that contain spoilers:
[sblock]When I saw Commissioner Gordan was shot in the middle of the movie I just knew he wasn't really dead simply because he wasn't Commissioner Gordon yet. I felt like there was no way they'd kill such a major character before even granting him the rank he had in the comics.
And, oh my god, Two-Face looked awesome. I almost didn't want to look, it looked so painful and so real. How the heck did they do that? If that was computer animation it was damn good! I took a course in computer graphics in college and I always find myself critiquing computer animation in movies since then, and this had me blown away. It must have been computers because there's no way you could've done that otherwise. (When we left the theater I mentioned this to Awayfarer, and he said that some actors gain or loose lots of weight for movies, so maybe they actually removed some of the actor's face...
Brakkart
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Loved this movie beginning to end and didn't think it was too long at all. As for speculating on a villain for a possible third movie my favourite choice as a new villain would be Firefly. Garfield Lynns is a revenge driven arsonist with a suit that allows him to "fly" as well as including a potent flamethrower and incendiary devices. He's make for a good antagonist in Nolans very gritty Gotham. I have no idea who would play him though.
If Penguin does appear I would love to see how Phillip Seymour Hoffman would do in the role. I think he'd be brilliant, though they would naturally have to trim back the characters eccentricities to fit the theme of the films.
If Penguin does appear I would love to see how Phillip Seymour Hoffman would do in the role. I think he'd be brilliant, though they would naturally have to trim back the characters eccentricities to fit the theme of the films.
I've thought they could have a set piece of the movie be a costume party. Barbara Gordon, againast the wishes of her father, sneaks in wearing a cosplay worthy Batgirl costume. Cobblepot attends wearing vest, spats, top hat, monocule, etc.
The last few moments of that movie almost destroyed a great 2+ hours for me. I couldn't decide which had a stupider hero at the end, this one, or the first spidey where he gives up the girl he's loved his whole life for no reason. I did not like their resolution to the issue of "we need a hero" at the end at all. I could think of a million better explanations. Of course, I'm sure this was done to set up the third movie, but still, I really, really did not like it.
I surprisingly agreed to take my 2 sons, 11 and 12. They enjoyed it. I'm pretty sure a lot of the social commentary went over their heads, and there were times I thought it was a bit much for them, but I don't think it is too much for anyone that has seen LotR, Matrix, and a few others they've seen.
I surprisingly agreed to take my 2 sons, 11 and 12. They enjoyed it. I'm pretty sure a lot of the social commentary went over their heads, and there were times I thought it was a bit much for them, but I don't think it is too much for anyone that has seen LotR, Matrix, and a few others they've seen.
Relique du Madde
Adventurer
I agreed.
They could have easily said Two Face lept to his death in grief and Gordan was trying to talk him out of it then once he leapt Batman tried to save him (and failed) instead of Batman pushed him out of the window*. The death's caused by Harvey could then be pinned on the Joker's me or on some unknown person since I doubt people would believe Joker if he claimed that Harvey Dent did it.
That way you have "two or three heroes"
instead of just having a martyr and a scapegoat.
Mouseferatu
Hero
Um...
[sblock]They didn't claim Batman killed Harvey. They claimed Batman killed the people that Harvey actually killed. And they couldn't pin those deaths on the Joker because too many people knew where the Joker was during those times; he couldn't have committed those crimes.
Also, the Joker isn't shy about admitting his crimes; some people would take his denial of guilt seriously. Enough, at least, that there would be further investigation, which would potentially expose the lie for what it was. (To say nothing of the fact that this would be giving the Joker leverage over Batman and Gordon, since he'd know the truth and could potentially find a way to prove it down the road.)[/sblock]
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The_lurkeR
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Really?
[sblock] ... so the Joker only killed people personally? He hadn't already had his thugs kill people, or bombs kill people remotely? There hadn't already been other people running around with guns, dressed as Batman?
The "worlds greatest detective" and Commissioner Gordon can't think of anything else? Any way you look at it, the explanation they go with is weak. [/sblock]
Mouseferatu
Hero
[sblock]Sure, he could've had someone else do it. But as I said, he knows that he didn't, he's going to deny it, and that denial is going to lead to an investigation that Gordon may not be able to control. Since Batman isn't denying what happened, there's no reason for anyone to question the official report.
I don't consider the ending weak at all, "any way I look at it."[/sblock]
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