Dark Sun - 3.5 (Closed)

[Lot]

I'm not in much of a position to answer a lot of game questions right now, as most of my game material is in storage because I'm moving. I can give you definitive answers by early next week, I promise. It's just I have limited internet access and limited access to my Dark Sun resources. Seem like a silly time to start a game? In hindsight, I could have planned it a bit better, but so be it.

I remember Dark Sun having different terrain types for desert (rocky badland, sand waste, salt plains, etc.) so I imagine each of those would be a type of terrain I would use.

Also, animal types seem to best match the flavor when they go reptile of insectoid, versus mammal. There are many species of common domesticated and wild animals of the large bug or lizard variety. Also, I recall pterrans being closely tied to pterrax but I'm not sure of their in-game effect. You'll have to wait on that, I'm afraid, until I get my books back.

So, this game is going to be happening and I promise we'll have a game by early next week. I'll start a Rogue's Gallery when I get a chance to really go over the character sheets. Thanks for everyone's enthusiasm.

 

[Steve Gorak]

I'm almost done with Quaketongue, but I have a few questions as I finish up (obviously I can edit later, but I figured I'd ask now while it was on my mind):
3) Would you be opposed to letting me use a hyena for Q's animal companion? It's not on the SRD list, but the stats map pretty closely to a wolf, which is on the list. I'm just trying to come up with an animal that fits the flavor of the setting a bit better.

If you want to fit with the setting, I say get some kind of bug. You can find an acceptable list of animal companions for druids on page 1 in Terrors of Athas.

Cheers,

SG

 

[Bloodweaver1]

I made two builds both tanks. First is a cleaving Half Giant and the second is a disarming Mul. Review them both and let me know which one would be a better fit. The only thing is that I don't have a description or background for the gaint yet. I figure the gaint could be a hired hand for the templar? Maybe a bodyguard. The Mul is a free slave.

[sblock=Half-Gaint]

Going Barb 5 / War hulk 10

Name: Ugg
Class: Gaint              Age: 20
Race: Half Gaint          Height: 7' 0"
Size: Large               Weight: 245 lbs
Gender: Male 		  Eyes: Sandy
Alignment: Chaotic ****   Hair: None
Deity: None               Skin: Bronze-ish

Class & Racial Traits:
Gaint ECL 3
Giant Type : 10' Reach
Racial Hit Dice: +2d8, +1 BaB, +3 Fort
Racial Skills: 5x(2+int)-Climb, Jump, Listen, Spot
Natural Armor: +2
Darkvision 60'



Str: 26 (+8)   Level: 0     XP: 
Dex: 12 (+1)   BAB: +1      HP: 28 (2d8+10)
Con: 20 (+5)   Grapple: +13 Dmg Red: -/- 
Int:  6 (-2)   Speed: 40'   Spell Res: -
Wis:  6 (-2)   Init: +1     Spell Save: - 
Cha:  4 (-3)   ACP: -0      Spell Fail: 10%

       Base Armor Shld  Dex Size Nat Misc Total
Armor:  10   +5    +0   +1  -1   +2   +0   17
Touch: 11    Flat-Footed: 13

      Base Mod Misc Total
Fort:  3   +5   +0   +8
Ref:   0   +1   +0   +1
Will:  0   -2   +0   -2

Armor           Bonus Dex ACP ASF  Weight  Cost
Breast Plate     +5   +3  -4  25%  60lbs   400cp

Weapon          Attack Damage Critical Range Weight Cost  
Macahuitl, Gr     +9   3d6+16  19-20x3   -   24lbs  400cp 
Mual              +9   3d6+16    x2      -   20lbs  330cp  
    All weapons are large & Master work

Equipment                   Cost / Weight
Explorers outfit x1        (20 cp / 24 lb)
Flint & Steel              (1 cp / 0 lb)
Belt Pouch                 (2 cp / 1 lb)
Backpack                   (4 cp / 4 lb) 
Potion, Cure Light x2      (100 cp / 0 lb)
Water SKin x4 (2 Gallons)  (8 cp / 24 lb)


Total Gold Spent: 
Total Gold Remaining: 1435 (2,700 cp)

Current Capacity: Light (157)
Carry Capacity: Light: 0 – 612 Med.: 613 – 1226 Heavy: 1227 – 1840 
                Lift: 3680 Drag: 9200
Languages: Common

Feats: (1)
Power Attack

Skill Points: 0  Max Ranks: 5
Skills                Abil Ranks Mod Misc Total
Appraise              Int    0   -2         0
Balance               Dex    0   +2         2
Bluff                 Cha    0   -3        -3
Climb                 Str    0   +8         8
Concentration         Con    0   +5         5
Craft                 Int    0   -2         0
Decipher Script       Int    0   -2         0
Diplomacy             Cha    0   -3        -3
Disable Device        Dex    0   +2         2
Disguise              Cha    0   -3        -3
Escape Artist         Dex    0   +2         2
Forgery               Int    0   -2        -2
Gather Information    Cha    0   -3        -3
Handle Animal         Cha    0   -3        -3
Heal                  Wis    0   -2        -2
Hide                  Dex    0   +2   -4   -2
Intimidate            Cha    0   -3        -3
Jump                  Str    0   +8         8
Knowledge             Int    0   -2        -2 
Listen                Wis    0   -2        -2
Move Silently         Dex    0   +2         2
Open Lock             Dex    0   +2         2
Perform               Cha    0   -3        -3
Profession            Wis    0   -2         0 
Ride                  Dex    0   +2         2 
Search                Int    0   -2        -2
Sense Motive          Wis    0   -2        -2
Sleight of Hand       Dex    0   +2         2
Spellcraft            Int    0   -2        -2
Spot                  Wis    0   -2        -2
Survival              Wis    0   -2        -2
Swim                  Str    0   +8         8
Tumble                Dex    0   +2         2
Use Magic Device      Cha    0   -3        -3
Use Rope              Dex    0   +2        -2
Denotes Class Skill

[/sblock]

[sblock=Mul]

Name: 
Class: Gladiator 2        Age: 20
Race: Mul                 Height: 7' 0"
Size: Medium              Weight: 245 lbs
Gender: Male 		  Eyes: Sandy
Alignment: Chaotic NeatrulHair: None
Deity: None               Skin: Bronze-ish

Class & Racial Traits:
Mul                       Gladiator
Darkvision: 30Ft          Free Exotic Weapon Feat
Tireless: +4              Mercy 
Dwavern Blood             Unarmed Strike
Damage Resistance: 1/-    Arena Guile +1
       (Non-lethal) 

Character Level
Feat at First Level

Str: 22 (+6)   Level: 2     XP: 
Dex: 14 (+2)   BAB: +2      HP: 28 (2d12+10)
Con: 18 (+5)   Grapple: +8  Dmg Red: 1/- (Non-Lethal)
Int:  8 (-1)   Speed: 30'   Spell Res: -
Wis: 10 (+0)   Init: +2     Spell Save: - 
Cha:  8 (-1)   ACP: -0      Spell Fail: 10%

       Base Armor Shld  Dex Size Nat Misc Total
Armor:  10   +5    +0   +2  +0   +0   +0   17
Touch: 13    Flat-Footed: 12

      Base Mod Misc Total
Fort:  3   +5   +0   +8
Ref:   0   +2   +0   +2
Will:  0   +0   +0   +0

Armor           Bonus Dex ACP ASF  Weight  Cost
Breast Plate     +5   +3   0  25%  30lbs   200cp

Weapon          Attack Damage Critical Range Weight Cost  
Cahulak           +8   1d6+6     x3      -   12lbs  55cp
    (Works exactly like a spiked chain)

Equipment                   Cost / Weight
Explorers outfit x1        (10 gp / 12 lb)
Flint & Steel              (1 gp / 0 lb)
Belt Pouch                 (1 gp / .5 lb)
Potion, Cure Light x2      (100 gp / 0 lb)


Total Gold Spent: 
Total Gold Remaining: 

Current Capacity: Light (54)
Carry Capacity: Light: 0 – 173 Med.: 174 – 346 Heavy: 347 – 520 
                Lift: 1040 Drag: 2600
Languages: Common

Feats: (2)
Improved Disarm; Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Cahulak)

Skill Points: 15 Max Ranks: 5
Skills                Abil Ranks Mod Misc Total
Appraise              Int    0   +0         0
Balance               Dex    0   +2   +2    4
Bluff                 Cha    5   -1        -1
Climb                 Str    0   +6         6
Concentration         Con    0   +5         5
Craft                 Int    0   +0         0
Decipher Script       Int    0   +0         0
Diplomacy             Cha    0   -1   +4    3
Disable Device        Dex    0   +2         2
Disguise              Cha    0   -1   +2    1
Escape Artist         Dex    0   +2         2
Forgery               Int    0   +0         0
Gather Information    Cha    0   -1        -1
Handle Animal         Cha    0   -1        -1
Heal                  Wis    0   +0         0
Hide                  Dex    0   +2         2
Intimidate            Cha    0   -1   +2    1
Jump                  Str    0   +6   +2    8
Knowledge             Int    0   +0         0 
Listen                Wis    0   +0         0
Move Silently         Dex    0   +2         2
Open Lock             Dex    0   +2         2
Perform               Cha    0   -1        -1
Profession            Wis    0   +0         0 
Ride                  Dex    0   +2         2 
Search                Int    0   +0         0
Sense Motive          Wis    5   +0         5
Sleight of Hand       Dex    0   +2   +2    4
Spellcraft            Int    0   +0         0
Spot                  Wis    0   +0         0
Survival              Wis    0   +0         0
Swim                  Str    0   0          0
Tumble                Dex    5   +2         7
Use Magic Device      Cha    0   -1        -1
Use Rope              Dex    0   +2         2
Denotes Class Skill

[/sblock]

-Blood

 

[jkason]

If you want to fit with the setting, I say get some kind of bug. You can find an acceptable list of animal companions for druids on page 1 in Terrors of Athas.

Cheers,

SG

D'oh. I only looked at the core rules doc they had, so I never saw the alternate Druid companion list. I'll take a look over that and come up with an option or two. Thanks for pointing it out.

jason

 

[Bront]

FYI, the Giant is effectively level 2 since the HD count as 2 racial levels (max HP and 4x Skill points for the first one).

 

[Bloodweaver1]

It is also a LA+1 creature. It also says in the .pdf that H.Giants can start out as a 3 lvl character with no class levels.


-Blood

 

[Rystil Arden]

It is also a LA+1 creature. It also says in the .pdf that H.Giants can start out as a 3 lvl character with no class levels.


-Blood

Yup, that is correct.

 

[Lot]

Bloodweaver: The mul window contains no data that I can see on my computer. The half-giant looks appropriately devastating, though. Just to warn you, he will be a natural target in combat situation but I'm sure you'll find a way to repay the enemy for their attention.

I am moving this weekend, so from Friday until Monday afternoon, I will have no access. Most likely by Tuesday, I will have had a chance to go through characters, find any problems (if there are any), and provided enough background fluff to explain why you're all on the caravan, where you are going, and what you know. I look forward to diving into the setting for the first time in a while. I'll give you a Rogue's Gallery link by Tuesday at the latest. See you then.

 

[jkason]

From the companion list in the Terrors of .pdf, I was looking at a Jhakar for Quaketongue's animal companion, but then I noticed it has an Int of 3. I thought I remembered reading somewhere on the boards that animal companions have to be 2 or lower. If someone more rules-savvy than me could confirm that, I'll give the companion list another look (If I forego the Jhakar, I think it's between a Lesser boneclaw or an Erdlu, as they're the only other reptilian critters left).

thanks,

jason

 

[Bloodweaver1]

Bloodweaver: The mul window contains no data that I can see on my computer. The half-giant looks appropriately devastating, though. Just to warn you, he will be a natural target in combat situation but I'm sure you'll find a way to repay the enemy for their attention.

I just up loaded the info. It should work now. Just note that both are extremely ruff drafts.


-Blood