Dark Sun 4e: Can it work?

Good points, guys :)
But all such folk should be explicitely stated as to be rare , they must not be common to Dark Sun..it would screw it up.
The place is a barbaric, Bronze-age-like world, know what I mean?

It's ok if a DM adds whatever the heck he wants, but doins so in the "core rules for the setting" would be bad.

So, Pterrans, warforged, tieflings etc should all be in a section of the Player's Guide for Dark Sun specifically emphasizing they are not core races.
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Good points, guys :)
But all such folk should be explicitely stated as to be rare , they must not be common to Dark Sun..it would screw it up.
The place is a barbaric, Bronze-age-like world, know what I mean?

It's ok if a DM adds whatever the heck he wants, but doins so in the "core rules for the setting" would be bad.

So, Pterrans, warforged, tieflings etc should all be in a section of the Player's Guide for Dark Sun specifically emphasizing they are not core races.
:)
Exactly that.
 

Coolio. :cool:


Think chitin rot.

Plus, can warforged heal like a regular character or do they have to be "fixed" like a construct? Tht would be a huge limitation, especially if they have to hunt down living creatures with chitin in order to be whole again. Or have to mine obsidian. In Dark Sun, both of those tasks are not easy.

Also, druids would be a warforged's worst enemy. Thri-kreen would hunt them as trophies because warforged hunt them for their chitin. They would be one of the most unnatural creatures on the planet and they would be feared for their alien nature on a harsh, dry world.

On Dark Sun, who would help such a creature? The Sorcerer Kings and templars would use them but not respect them. And if they learned how to create more, then they would simply discard those that fail them or, worse, harvest failures to make newer, stronger warforged slaves.

Imagine a "shop of horrors" where warforged are taken apart alive screaming for mercy in some deep, dark dungeon under a Sorcerer King's palace. (Remember that scene in Aliens: Ressurection with the "failed" Ripleys.)

Where would a warforged hide? They stand out. Such a character would either spend its life on the run or trying to blend in. They would hide from the templars in fear. Or they would become adventurers in order to stay alive. Learn the power of defiling magic to stay one step ahead of the templars the want to use them and the druids that want to destroy them.

Who would be their friends? Elves might bond with them over a shared hatred of kreen while dwarves would value their strength. Half-elves and muls could bond with a warforged based on them being outcasts in harsh world. Yet, when push comes to shove and the templars are clsoing in who could a warforged PC really trust.

There are ways to make such a character work, IMO. You'd try one character only to see how it goes and if it is too unbalancing then perhaps you scale back the races strengths and give it more weaknesses. Still, not everyone's game is the same, so what might work for my campaign might not work for yours.

Regardless, WotC's design philosophy is that if something is core then it has to have a place in any campaign they design for 4e. Therefore, warforged would have a place and so would gnomes and orcs, even though that bugs me. They will put paladins in and clerics too, but hopefully they will modify the races and classes to "FIT" Dark Sun instead of the other way around.

Anything is possible.
That is very interesting, and paints a pretty dismal prospective for the 'forged (as befits Athas).

Now imagine if one of the Sorcerer Kings was actually a warforged from the Green Age!

Now, gnomes: they're fey creatures, and as such they belong in the ockets of Feywild ruled by Spirits of the Land. They wouldn't be frollicking jokesters, but would take a dark turn and be the best assassins in the land, targeting templars and the agents of the Sorcerer Kings at the behest of the spirit of the land they serve (think dark one + whisper gnome + Athasian bard).

Orcs? Mutated humans. I mean, look at the dude on the far left, with the club:

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Hell, any race you want to put in, you can say "mutated human" and be done with it. There just wouldn't be "orc tribes", or an "orc culture". The cultures of Athas are what the original box described.
 

Amazon Taking Pre-Orders Dark Sun Prism Pentad

Looks like WotC is planning to re-release the Dark Sun Prism Pentad. Book 1 is already out. And, starting in November the other books follow. Search for Prism Pentad on Amazon to see what I'm looking at.

This could be a good sign that there will be a 4e Dark Sun.

Hope they make an official announcement.

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Looks like WotC is planning to re-release the Dark Sun Prism Pentad. Book 1 is already out. And, starting in November the other books follow. Search for Prism Pentad on Amazon to see what I'm looking at.

This could be a good sign that there will be a 4e Dark Sun.

Hope they make an official announcement.

Sadly, those were the books that buggered the setting.
 


Sadly, those were the books that buggered the setting.

Yeah... well, maybe they'll rewind to the start of the Prism Pentad (which is to say, the original boxed set), and just kind of ignore all the crap that got piled on over the course of the novels. The new "three sourcebooks and done" approach to settings seems like it will help with keeping the blah out of Athas.
 

Aye those books were gawd awful CRAP, in regards to what they did to the setting: they were ok as novels (some of them), but ruined the setting :/


Klaus,
that character in the painting is a mutated Elf, iirc ;) Due to effects of the "Pristine Tower".

I like Athas *not* having the usual races/creatures. Difference is a good thing in some cases :)
 



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