Darth Sidious question - **RotS Spoilers**

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

It just strikes me that Mace’s action were very unjedi like.

When dealing with a Sith Lord who is plotting to kill all the Jedi, has nearly the entire Senate under his control, and is perpatrating a war to consolidate more and more power?

Mace was right. He WAS too dangerous to be left alive. But, I'd be willing to bet that Palpatine had foreseen at least those words, as he said the SAME thing about Dooku. Truthfully, Dooku wasn't that dangerous alive. He should have been the one to stand trial, with Palptine being the one killed...but, thanks to Palpy's manipulating of Anakin, it happened the other way around.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

When dealing with a Sith Lord who is plotting to kill all the Jedi, has nearly the entire Senate under his control, and is perpatrating a war to consolidate more and more power?

Yeah... A Jedi is supposed to be above such things as an executioner.

Mace was right. He WAS too dangerous to be left alive. But, I'd be willing to bet that Palpatine had foreseen at least those words, as he said the SAME thing about Dooku.

Its quite possible, and I don't think I've ever said Mace's actions where wrong... just unjedi like. (enjoy the DSP. Thanks for taking one for the team. )

 

[Jdvn1]

Yup and was physical scared from it... He was asking for mercy, a fellow Jedi was saying he must stand trail. Mace took the time to look away from Palpatine also.

It just strikes me that Mace’s action were very unjedi like.

Well, but Palpatine was bluffing. He'd have attacked Mace the first chance he got. Which he did.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Yeah... A Jedi is supposed to be above such things as an executioner.

I think you're being a bit too sympathic towards Palpatine. Remember, he'd just killed three Jedi moments earlier, and it was obvious he wasn't going to stop there given the chance. HOW can you leave that person alive? It would only allow them to kill more and more and gain more and more control.

There really was only one option that Mace had. It was not his first choice to kill him. He had tried TWICE to arrest Palpatine. Once before the whole fight...then once after he'd already one. Then, Palpatine goes all Sith lightning on Mace. After that, its fairly obvious this isn't someone that can be taken alive. Mace had given him the option as a good Jedi should, but was attacked at every turn, so was left with only one real option.

 

[Jdvn1]

I think you're being a bit too sympathic towards Palpatine.

I think we know what side Brother Shatterstone is on...

 

[Darth K'Trava]

What about the Rogue Squadron comics?

Those were badass. I liked Baron Soontir Fel outta those!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I think you're being a bit too sympathic towards Palpatine.

And I think your letting your emotions cloud your judgment...

Honesty, we’ve had a talk about DSP before and how you would “award” them and how I would isn’t exactly perfect so this disagreement isn’t that much of a surprise is it? (For the Record: I’m harsher than him.)

I don’t disagree that Mace’s actions weren’t overly wrong just unjedi like and worthy of a DSP but really a DSP isn’t the end of everything. Sure it might be a sign of a very bad day but it’s easily trumped by losing a hand. and then getting electrocuted for a very long while, and then having a very long fall… So really Mace’s DSP is just a minor footnote to the worse day of his life.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I think we know what side Brother Shatterstone is on...

Logic... Emotion has no sway on me.

 

[wingsandsword]

There really was only one option that Mace had. It was not his first choice to kill him. He had tried TWICE to arrest Palpatine. Once before the whole fight...then once after he'd already one. Then, Palpatine goes all Sith lightning on Mace. After that, its fairly obvious this isn't someone that can be taken alive. Mace had given him the option as a good Jedi should, but was attacked at every turn, so was left with only one real option.

Exactly. Mace didn't have a lot of options. When they first tried to arrest him, he killed 3 Jedi Masters, the second time he tried, Mace barely survived the Force Lightning attack. As he pointed out, he had the Senate eating out of the palm of his hand, even with ironclad proof it was highly unlikely he could be convicted. The entire justice system was crumbling because of him, and turning him over to it would have probably lead to his acquittal, and Palpatine's same condemnation of the Jedi.

Did Mace have binders in his robe, and was planning to slap the cuffs on Palpatine and march him out of there and out to be booked?

So, what could you do, he was repeatedly resisting arrest with very lethal force, the justice system was so corrupt that he couldn't recieve a fair trial, and if you let him go the galaxy would plunge further into chaos. Unlike the prior incident with Dooku that Anakin was referencing, Palpatine also wasn't helpless when Mace was over him. He still had his hands and could throw lightning (as he very well proved), Dooku had his hands cut off when he was beheaded by Anakin, so in that respect he was, ahem, completely disarmed.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

The official write-ups fluctuate in ever printing… Just look at Palpatine’s dexterity of an 11… The emperor was never seen in action before RotS. His write up will change. (If WotC ever publishes another freaking book.)

If not, some fan will. He probably channeled Dark Side Power to temporarily up his DEX score for the fight..