Deeper Education

Whew, hope I made the deadline... FYI anything in here that needs edited to fit the campaign is fine with me

Nor Darrak

One of the newest additions to the academy, Nor has tied to avoid the codist/experimentalist debate as much as possible. Although, even a quick examination of his methods and attitudes reveals that he is an experimentalist by nature. This might have been enough to earn a 'no vote' from the codist faculty but for three points. First, he does not mind taking on the 'odd' or 'problem' students generally keeping their antics mostly out of sight and mind of the more dignified instructors. Second, he does have a rather decrepit appearing small ship which he is usually happy to use for shuttling students and instructors around the system on the infrequent times it is needed. And, third because Nor is genuinely likeable guy who does not let many things rile him up nor try to upset others. Thus, he was a relatively better choice than whomever else those experimentalists would try to nominate next - if the selection committee passed Nor by to fill the slot.

As stated, Nor is mildly experimentalist by nature. He is all for planning for long range things such as training. But to him that implies each plan must be adopted to fit the student to assure the best outcomes (boy'oh, now is there is teacher talk or what?). His experimentation ends with dark side though. Here he is wary to delve deep into such lore, as he does not trust Sith path. And, he won't teach it to his pupils (especially his pupils, whom are all a bit of misfits!) at all, as he feels they are not ready to make the judgement about the the costs of following this path.

Nor tends to break the mold on propriety though, even in these more relaxed times. Oddly for a Jedi and a self professed ship tech-geek, he actually likes socializing and indulging a fair bit. He is not adverse to drink, parties or practical jokes. And, is quite fond of the opposite sex as well. Needless to say rumor swirls around his behavior at times, although it is usually proven to be nothing more than exaggerration. Still, some of the more far out rumors include that he won his ship by gambling and boozing for three straight days. That he is the father of more than 20 children in the galaxy, some of whom were with women not even of the same species! And, that he is on the run from the law/debts/ex wives/jilted lovers (you choose) and so is here teaching, waiting until the heat dies down.

Quotes:

He smiles as if telling a joke and says, “Sorry I am late. I met a <X> and we did <Y> and I forgot about the time...” Where X and Y are obvious fabrications...

“Being good is fine, but being lucky is sometimes better.”


Special ability?:

Ideally, something with luck, like a re-roll skill/ability or some such


Currently Nor has 4 (problem) students:

student 1) A spoiled scion of a famous family who actually tries pretty hard to learn the ways of a jedi - or he would be out regardless of his family's connections. . . But, whose attitudes end up getting in the way and alienating others as often as not.

student 2) A shy force user whose mastery of the force has been much slower than his/her fellows, with the associated feelings of insecurity and lack of confidence building inside themselves

student 3) A pessimist who is very bright, but has both a bit of a sarcastic mouth and philosophical bent

student 4) A strong force user, but someone who rarely thinks ahead about what they are doing and sometimes make situations worse because of it
 
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Bob - I think that's a neat concept, and I'd like to see it fleshed out a bit more. In particular, I'm interested in what Sylara's position is in the Codist/Experimentalist debate.

Sylara was trained as a codist, however he is an experimentalist. Meaning that Sylara will only use his light sabre as a weapon, yet he has an affinity with weapons of all types. In order to make sure that his students are well rounded and prepared for anything he will teach each student any weapon that they show prowess with.

Also, what's Sylara's motivation? I mean, why does he consider the diplomatic approach so important?

Sylara truly believes that all problems can be resolved with mediation (even though he's terrible at it) as such Sylara is actually a pacifist. He has no desire to respond to a situation with violence, although because the force has so decided that is what he is good at.

This often times puts Sylara at odds with his own powers and who he truly is. There is a constant struggle to "turn the other cheek" and talk a situation down, even though deep down inside Sylara knows that it will come to blows. Sylara still grudgingly accepts his talents and powers as the man at arms, but will only fall back on them as a last resort.
 

I want to take a moment to say that I've very pleased with all of the character concepts you guys have put together for me. I'm quite excited about this game.

I'm going to need a bit of time to think over things and make some plans. I'll post again in the morning with some more information.
 

Phase Two!

Okay, it looks like we're ready to get started!

I had been looking for six players. I've ended up with seven people who are interested. On the one hand, I could reject one person, but that would be quite difficult--I do enjoy all of these concepts, and each of you seem articulate and well-written. On the other hand, I could simply expand the game a bit to allow for seven players, and this seems like the best possible choice to me.

So assuming all of you are still interested, you're all in! Let's move on to phase two! (of course, if you're no longer interested, just let me know).

Phase Two will be character creation. We'll take the concepts that you've posted her, give them a through fleshing out, and work up some stats. Any of the Star Wars d20 books are fair game for use (I particularly endorse the use of Alien Anthology and the Player's Guide). As mentioned before, you'll each have 30 points to spent on your attributes, and 10 levels with which to build your character. The normal rules restricting Jedi multi-classing are waived. And for starting credits, we'll use 4,000 (this is for your character's personal effects only--your lightsabers, of course, are free, as is any equipment you might reasonably be expected to have as part of your role at the Academy). If you have any further questions about character creation details, please let me know.

I'd like for everyone to post their first draft characters here; once I've had a chance to nitpick each of them we'll create a Rogue's Gallery and move them there. A note, though: this game will be quite skill-based, so I suggest discussing amongst yourselves which skills each of you are planning to take, so that there will not be a great deal of overlap. I've made some suggestions below, but these are merely my initial thoughts--feel free to go you own direction.

Characters:
Sylara, Jedi man-at-arms (Human?)
Tolark Baylinbari, Researcher of the Force (Human?)
Jodan, Quick-witted doublesaber master (Human)
Xual, Disciplined Teacher prone to Frenzy (Human?)
Malon Tyren, Graceful Weapon Master (Human; Jedi Guardian 5 / Jedi Weapon Master 5)
Tersh Nebuar, Young Martial Artist (Echani; Jedi Guardian/Force Warrior)
Nor Darrak, Lucky Jedi Scoundrel (Human?)​


My Suggestions, Ideas, and Comments
(I've put each of these in SBlocks to save space, but there are no spoilers contained. Feel free to take a look at the information for each of the characters).

allpowerfulbob:[SBLOCK]I think I'm starting to get a good handle on Sylara. I'm particularly interested in the Tersh/Sylara conflict. I wonder if Sylara has even noticed that Tersh bears a grudge against him. Is Sylara just as bad at "reading" people as he is at working with them? Or is he in fact vry good at understanding other people's emotions, but just not any good at knowing how to deal with those feelings?

I'm not sure what sort of special power to give to Sylara. Some sort of combat ability, perhaps? Some sort of force aura (perhaps not fully under his control) that confuses the people around him? Maybe something that alters their emotions?

As for skills, I suggest that Sylara actually have three or four ranks in diplomacy, but that he have a fairly low Charisma (he's tried his best how to learn how to deal with people, but his natural disinclination in that area has always hindered him). Other Charisma-based skills are probably not so important to this concept. For other skills, I suggest Craft (weaponmaking), Demolitions, Knowledge (Tactics) and Profession (Teacher). And you didn't say if Sylara is going to be human or not. If not, may I suggest Kel Dor?[/SBLOCK]

pallandrome:[SBLOCK]Tolark is supposed to be a loner, but I don't want him to be too much of a loner. I'd like it if he has managed to develop some sort of friendship with one of the other teachers. I suspect that Tersh, who teaches Galactic History, might have at least a fair working relationship with Tolark, given the latter's remarkable spread of knowledge (as a side note, there's a feat in the Player's Guide that gives an ability that's essentially just like bardic knowledge--I feel this might be an excellent feat for Tolark).

You've suggested that Tolark have the special ability to sense unusually strong concentrations of the Force, possibly even from tremendous distances. While I think that this is an excellent power, I'm afraid it might not be too useful (and might be better represented through very high ranks in the "See Force" skill). Might I instead suggest a power related to Tolark's 'grey side' philosophy? I'm thinking of a power that allows him to 'null' the force temporarily, cancelling out an opponent's use of the Force or making a highly Force-concentrated area safe to traverse. It would be skill-based, and probably require a standard action to perform. Of course, if you have a different idea, please let me know. This is just a suggestion.

As for skills, I think that Tolark would do well to take ranks in Appraise, Climb, Disable Device, Escape Artist and Survival. Also, I'm not sure if you wanted to be human or not, but if you're interested in being a non-human, I would suggest Cerean.[/SBLOCK]

Torillan:[SBLOCK]Jodan's mysterious past leaves him something of a blank slate. We know that he can be aggressive, that he is sill fairly young, that he is quick-witted, and that he has a strong interest in the double-bladed lightsaber. Beyond that, we know little, and while I'm not too worried about the character's past, I would like to know more about his present. Specifically, I'm interested in knowing what sort of subject Jodan might teach at the Academy. Or could he be something of a teacher-student, perhaps an assistant to Sylara? What sort of things has Jodan studied beyond combat? Perhaps Jodan has an unusual skill that one wouldn't necessacarily associate with a Jedi master--maybe he's got prodigal music talent, or he's a whiz with computers and droids? Alternately, maybe Jodan's missing past has made him a master of telepathy and empathy (his constant devling into his own mind has given him the ability to understand the minds of others even better).

I think that Jodan and Nor Darrak might get along well. They might share some similar interests.

I'm not quite sure just yet what I want to do with Jodan's special power. Maybe some sort of unique style focused on using the doublesaber? But should it be something offensive or defensive?

As for skills, I'm not quite sure what to suggest for Jodan. It might be helpful if he takes Computer Use and Repair, since I don't see any of the other characters taking much interest in those skills. But then again, I'm not sure if that really fits your concept. What do you think?[/SBLOCK]

Drowned Hero:[SBLOCK]Xual is described as being the quiet type, but I don't want him to be too quiet. It seems that he values discipline and silence, because they help him keep his more destructive emotions in check. Maybe, then, he uses telepathy more often than speaking. Maybe he's even taken a vow of silence, and only uses telepathy to communicate. I can see Xual's focus on silence and discipline as being his job at the academy--he could be a teacher of meditation.

I think that Xual and Sylara might be fairly good friends. Sylara, bad at small talk, would appreciate a companion who doesn't care about conversation all that much. Xual might consider himself a Codist, in which case he may also get along with Tolark (the only other Codist in this group).

As for Xual's frenzy, there is a Force Rage feat that would work well for this. I think that to make it special, we'll say that Xual can use the feat without gaining a dark side point. In fact, just the opposite! Because Xual stores up his negative emotions and uses that power to fuel his frenzy, it makes sense that it would actually use up dark side points (so he must essentially 'spend' a dark side point to activate the frenzy). To make things more interesting, we might say that if Xual gets too many dark side points he loses control and has to fly into a frenzy. What do you think?

I'd suggest that Xual have a fairly high Wisdom and plenty of ranks in Wisdom based skills (such as Sense Motive, Listen & Spot, and Treat Injury). It might also make sense to give him some of the healing Force powers. Oh, and if you haven't picked a race yet, consider the Zabrak.[/SBLOCK]

Master Tyren:[SBLOCK]I am starting to see Tyren as a stern teacher who is something of a perfectionist: he demands the best not only from his students but from himself as well. Do you think that's an accurate viewpoint? How much of Tyren's attitude comes from his own apprenticeship with Goshen Nii? You note that Tyren is quiet and easy to get along with, but that he places a high importance on respect. Which of the other professors does Tyren have any level of respect for? Jodan's master of his chosen weapon might come lose to Tyren's mastery of his--does this inspire rivalry or respect between the two of them?

What if Tyren's lightsaber teachings are actually something seperate from his main duties at the Academy (perhaps something that he does almost secretly, on the side). If that's the case, then what subject or course do you think that Tersh would have been chosen to teach? Where do his other strengths lie?

I don't know what sort of special power to develop for Tyren. Perhaps a special lightsaber form, a unique technique that only Tyren and Goshen every mastered? Do you have some ideas, perhaps?

For skills, I suggest Intimidate, Profession (Teacher), Slight of Hand (for weapon tricks), and Tumble.[/SBLOCK]

Paper_Bard:[SBLOCK]Tersh is a neat character. His reliance on his own body as a weapon rather than the lightsaber other jedi prefer is both a strength and a weakness. I see him as being very stubborn once he's chosen a course of action, completely devoted to his beliefs and ideals. I really like the grudge you introduced between Tersh and Sylara. Are there any other professors Tersh has an issue with? Or are there any with whom he has managed to develop a sense of comradery?

I like your idea for the speed power that you suggest, although I think there should be a per round vitality cost (probably 4 per round). Such a technique, while powerful, is also quite draining. As for the benefits of the power, how about one extra attack when making a full attack, a +1 bonus to attacks and a +1 dodge bonus to defense and reflex saving throws (essentially the same as 'haste')?

Do you think that Hide and Move Silently would make sense for Tersh? And, of course, you'll want to have some ranks in Knowledge (History).[/SBLOCK]

Fenris2:[SBLOCK]Nor Darrak is going to be a good character for this group to have. I can see him shaking things up, bringing a different perspective to this bunch of mostly straightlaced professors. If possible, I'd like him to be quick to challenge others, and especially to call out people who might otherwise be silent, to bring out ideas that might not otherwise be heard. As a teacher, Nor seems to be the sort of person who sees the value in what others overlook.

I also like that you made Nor a pilot (the group needed one). Feel free to come up with whatever sorts of details you might wish to include about Nor's ship--assume that the ship comes free and does not count against his starting credits.

What do you think Nor teaches at the academy? He might actually teach basic piloting, which would be neat. Alternately, perhaps he teaches some sort of "Remedial Force Use" class for students who are having a hard time with their Jedi studies.

As for the luck power that you suggest, how about this: Nor has exceptional timing, always able to find exactly the right moment to act. In game terms, this means that Nor's player can choose (rather than roll randomly) exactly which spot in the initiative order Nor will act in. I think that perhaps 8 vitality would be a reasonable cost for this. What do you think? Do you have any other ideas (I had a tough time coming up with a good 'luck' power)?

Nor should have both Pilot and Astrogate, but I also think that Gather Information and Bluff would both befit him. Gamble might make sense. And May I also suggest just a rank or two in Entertain (Comedy)? Human would be a fine race for this character, but don't feel limited--consider being a Rodian or a Bothan.[/SBLOCK]

I'm out of time, but I'll post again tomorrow with some guidelines for the way I'd like you to create the student NPCs. In brief, what Fenris2 did was just about perfect--there's only one or two more details I'd need. But now I need to try and get a little sleep! I look forward to reading more about your characters.

Oh, if you need help with character stats and such (perhaps because you do not have a copy of the rulebook handy) just send me an e-mail and I'll do my best to help.
 

I like it

I like the observations that you made about Tyren. I think that Tyren would have the most respect for Tersh and Jodan for their dedication to their weapons of choice. Tyren does respect all of his peers at the academy though, so far.

I think that your idea for Tyren's weapon teachings being secret is a great idea. Tyren will have a single student who he meets outside of the academy grounds at night to train them. It would be even better if it seemed scandalous (more so) if his single student was a human female; though his intentions would be purely focused on passing on his art. Tyren would do his best to keep this a secret, so that only the select can learn his art.

At the academy Tyren will teach alien languages and cultures. He speaks many languages and has taken the Knowledge: Alien Species skill.

As for his power, I'm really not sure what he should have either ... Tyren's special style focuses heavily on defense, waiting for the perfect moment to strike. Maybe his power could have something to do with waiting his opponent out, or possibly some defense booster. Just an idea.
 

Heh, I knew I forgot to include something, I am actually Cerean. I was counting on having three primary students, one of them being my Padawan learner.

Tolark Baylinbari (Scout 2/Jedi Consular 7/Jedi Master 1)

Treela Toliana (Twilek Famale, Jedi Consular 5) - My Padawan, Tweela was something of a ditz when she first began her education with me. She trusted too much to her natural physical acuity and personal charm, and more than once she found herself in over her head, in between a rock and a hard place, or just generally in trouble. In the last few years, she has calmed down immensely, however, and spends most of her time debating ancient sith philosophical standings with me, when she isn't training with her two blue lightsabres. She still needs to learn to look before she leaps sometimes, but she knows almost as much about jedi and sith lore as I do, and she is utterly loyal to her friends, which I value highly.

Hale Bopptar (Human Male, Jedi Guardian 5) - When Hale first came to learn with me, I honestly thought he might have been harboring feelings for Tweela. A tall, robust young man, Hale spends most of his time practicing his bladework from what I can tell. His only other interest of note seems to be, of all things, cataloging. He has the physique of a warrior, but the heart of a librarian, and since I have one of the more extensive collections of old dusty tomes and datafiles he came to me to learn about them. While his constant rearrangement of my references is occasionally aggrivating, he can always seems to find everything, and since the systems he uses are fairly intuitive, I usually can too.

Gimto leepto (Rodian Male, Tech Specialist 3/Jedi Counselor 2) - Gimto is an odd one. He is always lagging behind in his training with the force, because his interests lie in another direction. Gimto is facinated by computer and security systems. He is new to our little study group, and largely only comes around when we are discussing the ancient complexes that I sometimes take the students to. Even then, he's only ever interested in playing with whatever computerized gadgetry we might find. Still, he's a bright lad, with a quick wit and friendly sense of humor, who can take care of himself. I'm hoping he might pick up a thing or two from Tweela about applying himself to the study of the force, so I encourage him to join us on our outings.
 
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Yay Nor! Yay PCs! Yay for 4 misfit students, oh the fun you will provide. . . muhahahaha ;-)

I will start looking into it. Hopefully, I get some time this weekend. But, many finals need made and waaaay too much homework graded from lazy-last-minute-submitting students. lol
 

Tolark Baylinbari (Scout 2/Jedi Consular 7/Jedi Master 1)
Age:34 Height:1.6 meters Weight:62 kilos Eyes:Radiant Green Hair:Brown
Tolark is a short, thin man, with piercing green eyes and a short, well combed brown beard. He keeps his crown freshly shaven. Tolark tends to walk slowly, speak softly, and is impeccably polite. At the academy, he is almost never seen with his lightsaber lit, even on the practice grounds.

Read/Write/Speak Basic, Cerean, and Sith
Str 10 +0
Dex 10 +0
Con 12 +1
Wis 20 +5
Int 18 +4
Cha 10 +0

VP:58
Defense:20 (10 +10 defense bonus +0 dex)
FP: 13 (10 from level, 1 from Force Sensitive, 2 from Lightsaber Construction)
Rep: +3

BAB: +7/+2 Fort= +7 (+6 +1con)
MAB: +7/+2 Ref= +5 (+5 +0dex)
RAB: +7/+2 Will= +12 (+7 +5wis)

Climb 5= 5 ranks + 0 str
Jump 5= 5 ranks + 0 str
Listen 10= 5 ranks + 5 wis
Spot 10= 5 ranks + 5 wis
Search 9= 5 ranks + 4 int
Survival 10= 5 ranks + 5 wis
Swim 5= 5 ranks + 0 str
Knowledge (Jedi Lore) 14= 9 ranks + 4 int
Knowledge (Sith Lore) 11= 7 ranks + 4 int
Knowledge (Archaeology) 12= 8 ranks + 4 int
Craft (lightsaber) 10= 6 ranks + 4 int
Treat Injury 12= 7 ranks + 5 wis
Profession (teacher) 13= 8 ranks + 5 wis
See Force 20= 13 ranks + 5 wis + 2 feat
Far Seeing 18= 13 ranks + 5 wis
Enhance Senses 8= 1 rank + 5 wisdom + 2 feat
Force Strike 5= 1 rank + 4 int
Heal Another 10= 5 rank + 5 wis
Move Object 17= 13 rank + 4 int
Telepathy 6= 1 rank + 5 wis
Heal Self 1= 1 rank + 0 cha

Feats/Special abilities...
Endurance
Force Sensitive
Exotic WP (lightsaber)
WGP (Blaster Pistols)
WP (Simple Weapons)
Alter
Control
Sense
Aware
Force Mastery
Dissipate Energy
Force Flight
Force Whirlwind
Force Mind
Increased Force Strike Damage (Jedi Master)
Trailblazing (Scout)
Deflect (defense +1)
Deflect (attack -4)
Deflext (extend defense and attack)

Lightsaber (Constructed by Tolark)
3d8 +8/+3
 


I like what you siad about Tersh. However, he is not the sneaky type. He is actually very blunt. Preferring to resolve the problem immediately and without anyone else's help. He is smart enough, however, to know when to keep his trap shut. (This is why he hasn't said anything to Tersh, though his obvious cold shoulder attitude is a dead give away that there is a chip on his shoulder. Due to his inability to teach combat, he has thrown himself into history, attempting to find solace in the deeds of the past, lest he think too much about the deeds of the present.
He keeps physucally fit at all times, even going so far as doing stretches and minor warm-ups between classes.
One more thing about Tersh before I make the stats. In actuality, he is neither codist nor experimentalist. He cares little for the debate, finding valid points in both sides. He beleives certian core things (martial arts being one of them) should be taught to all, but then they should be allowed to learn at their own pace what they will.
"History has taught us that when me change our grip, wether by tightening or loosening, that which we hold dear slips away." -Tersh Nebuar
He doesn't really relate to many of the teachers, keeping rather indifferent to all but Sylara.
There is one teacher, however, whom he beleives to be a possible friend: Tolark Baylinbari. Though he hasn't actually forged a formal friendship with the Scholarly Cerean, he believes him to be kindred spirit.
 

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