defending weapons

[durath]

Could a character duel wield two defending weapons and gain a bonus to armor class from both weapons?

For a description of the defending ability please see the DMG page 186.

I would allow it but I was curious as to the opinion of others.

 

[fl8m]

wow i guess it would, the dmg says

" a special AC bonus that stacks with all others"

can't much argue with that

 

[Stalker0]

Yeah it will, but you sitll get TWF penalties, even if you don't actually swing one of those weapons, just using its abilites counts.

 

[kreynolds]

Could a character duel wield two defending weapons and gain a bonus to armor class from both weapons?

Yes. Actually, and you're gonna love this, get two +5 dancing defending weapons and two +5 defending weapons. First round, Haste yourself and quick-draw your +5 dancing defenders, then as a free action, allocate the whole +5 bonus from each sword to your AC. Second round, activate both of your dancing weapons to "dance", then quick-draw your two +5 defending weapons and allocate both of their +5 bonuses to your AC as well. Now, you're fighting with four weapons at once, and you've got a +20 bonus to your AC that stacks with everything else. Bit expensive though at roughly 544,000gp and all.

Of course, you'll be playing some "musical weapons" when your dancing duration runs out, but hopefully, you'll have won the fight by that time.

 

[kreynolds]

Yeah it will, but you sitll get TWF penalties, even if you don't actually swing one of those weapons, just using its abilites counts.

I'm not so sure about that. The swords attack using your BAB, but you don't swing them. It even states they "attack on their own", and I don't see someone suffering two weapon fighting penalties for simply commanding their swords "You! Attack that one! And you! Attack the other one!", then letting them go at it until their targets are dead.

Although, if we want to get rules-lawyery, the enhancement description doesn't even say you get to direct the attacks of the weapon.

 

[Saeviomagy]

I don't think that stalker 0 was talking about dancing defending weapons, just plain-ol regular defending weapons. And he's right. To get the bonus, you have to attack with the weapon, and thus incur the 2 weapon fighting penalty, even if you make the attack against the air nearby.

 

[Saeviomagy]

More on your idea kreynolds - you could do the same with 2 dancing defending weapons, a defending weapon and an enchanted shield with defending spikes. (of course, you'd need shield expert).

 

[kreynolds]

More on your idea kreynolds - you could do the same with 2 dancing defending weapons, a defending weapon and an enchanted shield with defending spikes. (of course, you'd need shield expert).

I'll take that even one more step further. Two dancing defending weapons, two defending weapons (held), and last but not least, and animated large shield. Or, drop one of those held defenders and replace it with a wand or something.

I also had this nasty image of a fighter with 4 dancing speed longswords and 2 speed longswords held in his hands. Just picture that for a second.