TrevorStamper
First Post
I think a couple of clarifications need to be made to this review:
1) Delta Green d20 was written for use with the BRP system, and the d20 version of CoC. It was originally co-authored by John Tynes, who co-authored the d20 version of CoC with Monte Cook. While Tynes may not have directly authored the d20 stats, you can bet he probably had something to do with them, and they fit well with the d20 CoC rules--sparse without many of the trappings of D&D 3.5. Note that the ammunition system (applying damage by calibre size) is, IMHO, a brilliant idea. With the firearms rules already presented in the CoC book, what more did you need than a nice table to summarize the information? With this one table you can pretty much pick up any gun bible and choose your firearm to rally against the minions of the Mi-Go. I think the author of the review was looking for more of a d20 book, with all of it's requisite trappings.
2) Delta Green IS rooted in the culmination of the Alien Abduction sentiment that culminated in the mid-90s (and that produced the X-Files). This was sort of a perfect storm of converging sentiment and feelings. Since this book was published over a decade ago, and no effort was made to revise this vision, why would you expect this to be otherwise? I do not see the need to rewrite every page simply because a new edition is coming out--what this book needed was d20 CoC-type stats to be fully compatible with the d20 CoC game, and they are provided in spades.
HOWEVER, it is important to note that the authors clearly state in several places in the book that a new sourcebook will bring the DG setting up to today's point. The fact is pretty straightforward: DG rocked the CoC world int he mid-90s for its unprecedented level of detail and clear vision. Have faith, I see no reason why a new book would not do the same. After all, look at Countdown and the chap books to see how the quality of the material carried forward from the original book.
3) Speaking of chapbooks. These 3 long OOP books only were allowed to be sold directly from Pagan's website. They new sell for upwards of $150 each on ebay, WHEN you can find them. But take heart! The chapbooks are being brought together with a lot of NEW material into a new HB chapbook: Delta Green, Eyes Only. This 256 page HB book will only have 1000 copies (as per the agreement with Chaosium is my understanding) and is currently on pre-order from this website:
http://arcdream.com/catalog/index.php?osCsid=cfbd800852da28db48bbb795e6a57d7a
On Dennis' website, he indicated that over half of the 1000 print run are already sold out, so this is sure to be an instant sell-out, and hard to find book. The original Mi-Go book alone was worth the price of admission in this bigger format.
In the final analysis, this book does what it was supposed to do, and does it well. The material was awesome in the 90s, and is still redily accessible in today's terms. The reviewer is correct, if you were to run a DG game with this book during 2000-2007 timeframe, then you need to rethink some things, but that would be true if you wanted to run CoC during the Korean war era as well--eras not currently detailed need some thinking on the part of the DM, but that seems hardly like a novel idea to me.
1) Delta Green d20 was written for use with the BRP system, and the d20 version of CoC. It was originally co-authored by John Tynes, who co-authored the d20 version of CoC with Monte Cook. While Tynes may not have directly authored the d20 stats, you can bet he probably had something to do with them, and they fit well with the d20 CoC rules--sparse without many of the trappings of D&D 3.5. Note that the ammunition system (applying damage by calibre size) is, IMHO, a brilliant idea. With the firearms rules already presented in the CoC book, what more did you need than a nice table to summarize the information? With this one table you can pretty much pick up any gun bible and choose your firearm to rally against the minions of the Mi-Go. I think the author of the review was looking for more of a d20 book, with all of it's requisite trappings.
2) Delta Green IS rooted in the culmination of the Alien Abduction sentiment that culminated in the mid-90s (and that produced the X-Files). This was sort of a perfect storm of converging sentiment and feelings. Since this book was published over a decade ago, and no effort was made to revise this vision, why would you expect this to be otherwise? I do not see the need to rewrite every page simply because a new edition is coming out--what this book needed was d20 CoC-type stats to be fully compatible with the d20 CoC game, and they are provided in spades.
HOWEVER, it is important to note that the authors clearly state in several places in the book that a new sourcebook will bring the DG setting up to today's point. The fact is pretty straightforward: DG rocked the CoC world int he mid-90s for its unprecedented level of detail and clear vision. Have faith, I see no reason why a new book would not do the same. After all, look at Countdown and the chap books to see how the quality of the material carried forward from the original book.
3) Speaking of chapbooks. These 3 long OOP books only were allowed to be sold directly from Pagan's website. They new sell for upwards of $150 each on ebay, WHEN you can find them. But take heart! The chapbooks are being brought together with a lot of NEW material into a new HB chapbook: Delta Green, Eyes Only. This 256 page HB book will only have 1000 copies (as per the agreement with Chaosium is my understanding) and is currently on pre-order from this website:
http://arcdream.com/catalog/index.php?osCsid=cfbd800852da28db48bbb795e6a57d7a
On Dennis' website, he indicated that over half of the 1000 print run are already sold out, so this is sure to be an instant sell-out, and hard to find book. The original Mi-Go book alone was worth the price of admission in this bigger format.
In the final analysis, this book does what it was supposed to do, and does it well. The material was awesome in the 90s, and is still redily accessible in today's terms. The reviewer is correct, if you were to run a DG game with this book during 2000-2007 timeframe, then you need to rethink some things, but that would be true if you wanted to run CoC during the Korean war era as well--eras not currently detailed need some thinking on the part of the DM, but that seems hardly like a novel idea to me.
