Delta Green: Operas and Avatars [d20 COC]

[taitzu52]

It is certainly not your business to air your grievances at Gomez's expense. This is an agenda that was brought over from GG, and presented to you in confidence. NONE of the other admins here at ENWorld seem to care, which leads me to believe that this is a personal matter. Or at least an unwarranted ego trip.

We are all pretty unimpressed with your general attitude. If there's any actions giving PBP a bad name, they're all yours, BS.

Good day.
taitzu52

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

It is certainly not your business to air your grievances at Gomez's expense.

I guessing "no" for a vote of honesty from you also.

This is an agenda that was brought over from GG, and presented to you in confidence.

It was, where? I signed no form, I gave no word. I even PMed Gomez and he didn't reply. *shrug* I think all his players have a right to know but I left it to the ones who's game got moved but went invited. I could have done it privately, but I thought Gomez deserved to know.

NONE of the other admins here at ENWorld seem to care, which leads me to believe that this is a personal matter. Or at least an unwarranted ego trip.

None of them probably know. (but you’re right, what is groovy gamers to them?)

As for the rest of your post, no real comment, I'll even let you air them, which seems to be counter to the whole ego trip thing... *shrug*

 

[Bobitron]

Considering the large amount of PBP games that lose players or DM's, not to mention those that just fall off the face of the boards due to lack of commitment from both players and DM's, I would say that singling out a DM who has decided to take his games elsewhere or just not play at all is incredibly 1) unfair and 2) unprofessional.

I'm sure every one of us has been in a game that fell apart. I have never seen a moderator or player post in an ooc thread with the kind of tone or implications you did in your post. That was a really lame move. Yes, that's 'in my opinion', but I think you would find that the vast majority of the community would agree.

 

[Endless Flight]

Hey guys,

If you have any grievances about GG, please bring them up in this thread:

http://groovygamers.com/viewtopic.php?t=1684

Thanks,

EF

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Considering the large amount of PBP games that lose players or DM's, not to mention those that just fall off the face of the boards due to lack of commitment from both players and DM's, I would say that singling out a DM who has decided to take his games elsewhere or just not play at all is incredibly 1) unfair and 2) unprofessional.

Bob we agree on something… Well except in this case said DM isn’t ending this game he is moving it and didn’t give every player the chance to move with it and that is what has garnered my anger. I see that as exceedingly 1) unfair and 2) unprofessional not to mention untrustworthy.

I'm sure every one of us has been in a game that fell apart. I have never seen a moderator or player post in an ooc thread with the kind of tone or implications you did in your post. That was a really lame move. Yes, that's 'in my opinion', but I think you would find that the vast majority of the community would agree.

Again I would agree except this game didn't end it's being moved, without all the players being given a chance, and I find that exceedingly lame.

Now if you want to bump this thread to the top every few minutes, or hours, I’m game.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Hey guys,

If you have any grievances about GG, please bring them up in this thread:

http://groovygamers.com/viewtopic.php?t=1684

Thanks,

EF

EF, I believe you said this wasn’t a GG issue and if I had issues with it to post about it on ENworld, this was your suggestion after all. Anyhow, I have no grievances with GG but I’ll take a look at the thread anyhow.

 

[Bobitron]

Now if you want to bump this thread to the top every few minutes, or hours, I’m game.

This isn't meant as a way to bump the thread and get attention, and I think you understand that. It's a discussion.

First, let me say that I respect the work you do, both here and elsewhere. We have never bumped heads before, and I would like to hope that disagreeing on this issue won't lead to a downturn in our relationship.

I don't feel your comments are fair. Every DM on this site should have the right to end or move a game as he sees fit. They should also have complete control over who plays in said games. Gomez attempted to move this game without confrontation, and gave as much information as he was willing to give. One would assume that any comments he made regarding moving the game would have been kept in confidence. While it wasn't stated in so many words, it is common sense.

Also, similar things to this happen in face-to-face games all the time. A player doesn't get invited to a new game, a game ends without the people involved giving 100% of the real reasons behind it, all sorts of stuff. It is up to each individual DM to decide how they want to run their games, and I think that extends to games that are moving rather than ending.

I feel a bit out of place here, but please know that I have been following the actions of Solomon and Andrews since they first met, and I love this game, especially in the stages before the convergence.

 

[Endless Flight]

EF, I believe you said this wasn’t a GG issue and if I had issues with it to post about it on ENworld, this was your suggestion after all. Anyhow, I have no grievances with GG but I’ll take a look at the thread anyhow.

Once anyone brings GG up here, then it becomes an issue with GG. If you had all kept GG out of this thread, I wouldn't be over here.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

This isn't meant as a way to bump the thread and get attention, and I think you understand that. It's a discussion.

Oh I know and I do agree but as I said a few posts back, maybe even in my first one we’re not going to change anyone’s opinion.

I think common decency means you should be honest and forthright with someone but I’m willing to assume that’s just me. (Believe it or not some people think I’m blunt.)

Also except for two games, I know the first name of my DMs, I consider them friends and comrades and not some random stranger on the internet. My concept of stranger is also probably not as defined as others would see it. Just today I gave a man I didn’t know, who approach me in a grocery store parking lot a ride. (Why? Not cause it made me feels good, not because I liked a nice wave adrenaline, but because I’ve been there and done that and I had empathy for the man.)

I’ve lost enough games to know how I would feel it a DM bailed on me, I know how these players feel and I don’t like the feeling but you know what's worse? Not being told, knowing for whatever reasons you weren’t part of the group.

For me it doesn't comes down to the DM’s rights but to common curtsy you should extend to every person you meet.

Everyone deserves to know the truth.

V/R
BS

 

[Endless Flight]

Maybe he told them the truth via PM?