Demonic Lore

[BOZ]

cool, non-gaming reference works can really be helpful.

 

[grodog]

cool, non-gaming reference works can really be helpful.

FYI, diaglo's pointing you to an Empire of the Petal Throne supplement by Phil Barker, BOZ

Now, if you're looking for some good non-gaming books on the occult and such, Gustav Davidson's Dictionary of Angels is a must-have, along with Milton's Paradise Lost, Dante's Inferno, and the artwork of Hieronymous Bosch @ http://images.google.com/images?svn...lla:en-US:official&q=Hieronymus+Bosch&spell=1 and William Blake @ http://images.google.com/images?svn...:en-US:official&q="william+blake"&btnG=Search

 

[Erik Mona]

As I said above, these posts are very helpful. What strikes me most of all, especially upon reviewing Grover's list of Abyssal layers, is how so many of us seem to have obsessive-compulsive lists of the same things. Personally, this sort of lore is 100% intertwined with my love of the D&D game as a whole, and is why I am unsatisfied with the modern FR and Eberron approach to the planes. I respect those approaches as unique creations, but when it comes to Dungeons & Dragons, give me the Great Wheel or give me nothing.

Ahem.

My own list lacked Salted Wound, layer 313, the Mind of Evil, and Malignebula. Here's one I've come across that you don't have on yours:

LAYER 313: UNNAMED (Abyssal eviscerators come from here; Miniatures Handbook)

Also, a couple of recent issues of Dungeon have revealed the identities of four Abyssal lords. They are:

LAZBRAL'THULL: Demon lord of torture and bloodletting. (Dungeon #122: Root of Evil).

MALGARIUS: A demonic plant that once controlled a layer of the Abyss, but which was defeated by the demon lord Lazbral'thull. (Dungeon #122: Root of Evil).

MALGOTH, THE: A "terrible entity" that ruled over several layers of the Abyss eons ago. Defeated by a consortium of seven demon lords, who led a fantastic assault on his haunted realm. The victorious demons scattered the Malgoth's essence across the Abyss, only to be deposed and ultimately destroyed by underlings on their home layers. (Dungeon #117: Touch of the Abyss).

THARZAX: Patron of poisonous things that creep and crawl. (Dungeon #123: Salvage Operation).

--Erik

 

[Cthulhu's Librarian]

This thread is great (along with the other one re: Demons). Thanks very much for compiling these things guys. It's stuff like this that makes ENWorld great!

 

[Shemeska]

but when it comes to Dungeons & Dragons, give me the Great Wheel or give me nothing.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And Grover's list has gotten use by me as well, among other things he's done, even if I've used the Abyss less in comparison to the three planes of Conflict.

And now I go back to fleshing out a section of the layer of Woeful Escarand for my own campaign's fun in the Abyss.

 

[Alzrius]

What strikes me most of all, especially upon reviewing Grover's list of Abyssal layers, is how so many of us seem to have obsessive-compulsive lists of the same things.

As a compulsive list-maker (see my Gods List), I notice this too. It's interesting how a certain grouping of us gamers feel so inclined to codify various aspects of the game.

Personally, this sort of lore is 100% intertwined with my love of the D&D game as a whole, and is why I am unsatisfied with the modern FR and Eberron approach to the planes. I respect those approaches as unique creations, but when it comes to Dungeons & Dragons, give me the Great Wheel or give me nothing.

Testify!

 

[Pants]

What strikes me most of all, especially upon reviewing Grover's list of Abyssal layers, is how so many of us seem to have obsessive-compulsive lists of the same things.

Reverting to suggestion mode:
I think it would be great to have a list such as this appear in the book. A list of all known abyssal layers, with a brief description for most of them and more detailed descriptions for some of the more well known layers (Thanatos, Gaping Maw, the Steaming Fen, etc. etc.).

 

[Shemeska]

As a compulsive list-maker (see my Gods List), I notice this too. It's interesting how a certain grouping of us gamers feel so inclined to codify various aspects of the game.

For a single page on the site, you're a disturbing percentage of Planewalker's traffic you know, just because of the frightening utility of that list of yours. I've got a copy of it sitting on my desktop here, right next to a few pdfs. It's damn handy.

 

[Alzrius]

For a single page on the site, you're a disturbing percentage of Planewalker's traffic you know, just because of the frightening utility of that list of yours.

Those hits are all me; I'm narcissistic about my own work.

I've got a copy of it sitting on my desktop here, right next to a few pdfs. It's damn handy.

Ironically, I just got done pestering Clueless about another update to be made (and after that I need to update it again for that demigod in Heroes of Horror.

 

[BOZ]

here i go on another fishing trip: http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=153838

quite a few have been named in this thread (thanks Grover/Rip!), but i know there have to be a hundred or more floating around out there in various products...