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[Fifth Element]

With every new set, people complain about the ever-decreasing quality, and argue that they need to step up the quality if they're going to be successful. And yet, they keep making more sets, implying that the previous set was a success. If they weren't making money on these minis, they would stop making them.

I for one don't see any problems with the cyclops. The mezzoloth is fine - not great, but nothing to complain about.

 

[avin]

Most people buy it for DDM, not D&D. They don't care if it's well done or not, just about the übber DDM stats.

I guess

 

[Kunimatyu]

New Mezzoloth is a better sculpt than the old one, and same rarity too.

 

[Nebulous]

New Mezzoloth is a better sculpt than the old one, and same rarity too.

Yeah, i think it is better too. And so far i'm impressed with this set. I'll know better when i see more of them. I just think there's too many rares, but i guess every set is like that.

 

[Zaukrie]

Not true on both counts.

WotC has reported that MOST, a large MOST, buy these for role playing, not DDM.

And, DDM players complain as much or more than RPers about the sculpt and paint job.

 

[Glyfair]

Mezzodemon - you meant Mezzoloth...?

No, he meant Mezzodaemon.

Most people buy it for DDM, not D&D.

As Zaukrie has stated, most people buy it for D&D. In my area DDM never took off. However, the sets move very well in the stores.

 

[Peter Lee]

Only now do i see a semblance to the "Screaming Sandperson" in the original minis stance.

I'm so disappointed in you.

 

[FATDRAGONGAMES]

I dunno, for some reason this set just isn't exciting me very much.

 

[Nebulous]

I dunno, for some reason this set just isn't exciting me very much.

Your wallet will thank you later

 

[mac1504]

In RPG's WoTC is the 800 lb. gorilla, but they have never been the industry leader in minis. With other companies out there like Reaper minis and the new Ral Partha minis, WoTC better get there together if they want to keep people interested in their minis line.

Look, this argument has been done over and over again, but I just had to say you can't compare metal versus plastic miniatures. And you'll never be able to compare mass-produced, pre-painted plastic miniatures with hand crafted and hand-painted metal miniatures.

I used to be a huge metal mini collector and painter [insert joke about having the "wall of lead" or some joke about the wife that resents the fact that she has no space to put her clothes because of the two closets filled with half painted metal miniatures] for many years. I even went so far as to work for a small metal miniature company to learn the ins and outs of the industry. I got to meet and work with some of the great sculptors and painters in the industry, and I was at the time, a "metal miniature" snob. If it wasn't metal and hand painted, it was crap!

But, life goes on and responsibilities pile up, and I still love to DM with minis- but I no longer have the time to paint up all of my miniatures I need. I also have this annoying habit of needing the exact (or close to as exact as possible) miniature for every encounter. WOTCs DDM line filled that need. Are the minis the best sculpts, or the highest quality paint job? No, but they fill in fine for most encounters, and the success they have had with the line has put plenty of variety out there to collect from. And I still think a fully painted miniature (be it plastic or metal) looks better than a bare metal miniature any day.

I'll also say that I have half the stress of playing with plastic miniatures than I do when my players handle/mishandle my lovingly painted metal miniatures which are much more prone to breaking/chipping in travel or during play.

I won't argue that WOTC is the leader in the miniature market (although I bet they have a good percentage of the market), but I think you can see their influence when other companies have started to venture into pre-painted plastic miniatures (Reaper, Rackham, etc.) and I'll bet that has more to do with WOTCs success than just the increased cost of tin these days.