Design & Development: The Warlock

[Frostmarrow]

Curious. Now, Infernal is obvious.

Shadowy? Does this imply moral ambiguity, or straight up shadow-realm stuff?

Feral? Are we talkin' Demons and their angry natures? Or perhaps more Fae-like? Given they're otherworldly, I don't know. Maybe this class might be connected to the Far Realm? The Raw power of Nature?

I like.

Though it does concern me that the class might be the one-trick pony people are saying it is. "Evil evil evil".

What if the patrons are named? Maybe it won't say "made a pact with an infernal being" but rather "made a pact with the devil Asmodeus."

Or Orcus, or Vecna, or Mordenkainen.

 

[Rechan]

Now that you mention it, that does make it really sound like warlocks can choose from the Abyss, the Shadowfell, and the Feywild for their pacts./QUOTE]
Devils are more the pact-sort. You know, deals, selling one's soul, interested in souls, etc etc.

Question is, what would anyone in the Feywild want with souls?

 

[FireLance]

I like that the class is intrinsically dark-flavored. It's really not analogous to pre-4e paladins, because dark flavor doesn't mean evil character.

True, but it would be nice to have some light-flavored options in there, such as an entity similar to the Silver Flame in Eberron, to empower Lawful or Good warlocks. Some gamers (like me, for example) do like playing (for lack of a better term) unambiguously "good guy" characters.

 

[SPECTRE666]

Wow! Me like,me like, me like!

 

[hong]

Devils are more the pact-sort. You know, deals, selling one's soul, interested in souls, etc etc.

Question is, what would anyone in the Feywild want with souls?

Devils corrupt and imprison souls. Demons eat souls. Fey turn souls into new fey.

 

[FireLance]

Question is, what would anyone in the Feywild want with souls?

My take is: some patrons aren't interested in getting souls, just in the warlock killing his marked enemies. Whatever the warlock's patron is, I'm sure there are creatures that it doesn't like and is willing to reward the warlock for killing.

 

[DandD]

Devils corrupt and imprison souls. Demons eat souls. Fey turn souls into new fey.

Or want to play with them. Fey are quite fond of little children, and like to play with them... Until they get bored and throw them away like old toys...

 

[KingCrab]

They say they're moving away from save or die effects, yet being sent to hell and coming back in pieces sounds like an all or nothing type of thing to me. I'm wondering how much save or die they're leaving in the game.

 

[DandD]

Perhaps it was just meant as a flavorfull description of a really powerful attack that makes really big damage (and has as a nice side-effect the ability to make your enemy disappear for one round, so that he can't contribute to the fight).

 

[Gloombunny]

They say they're moving away from save or die effects, yet being sent to hell and coming back in pieces sounds like an all or nothing type of thing to me. I'm wondering how much save or die they're leaving in the game.

I think you're taking Heinsoo's writing a little too literally there. The "in more pieces" part is just meant, I think, to indicate that the enemy takes a lot of damage from being in hell for a round.