Did This Prove to be True?

[Knight Otu]

I thus I go into broken record mode again: D&D has never been Wizards primary product, & I predict it never will be. Wizards does not need to release a D&D book every month to get paid. They do have other products.

I dunno, the Hasbro Annual reports always seem to make an effort to make sure to mention that Wizards produces Magic and Dungeons and Dragons (but do put Magic first). The 2006 Annual Report does, and I seem to recall that I specifically searched another such report because someone said it didn't even mention the roleplaying aspect when it did. Other products are mentioned in passing (such as the successful line of miniatures), but the mentions seem to focus on the fact that Wizards publishes trading card and roleplaying games, and refer to the two big ones.

 

[Steel_Wind]

So the links I supplied that shows that TSR put out a lot more stuff than WotC has done, means nothing to you? :\

/M

I was a little mystified by your reply to my post, frankly. I post "A is less than B". You reply: Yes, "A is less than B" and post a link to prove a point not in contention.

You ignored the entire point of my post, which is that we should be comparing the total $ value of A and the page count of A to similar values for B. (Where "A"= 3.xx and B = 2E)

To respond "numbers really are numbers" when the point of my post was not to compare "# of books" but instead to look at the cumulative $$ value of the retail products ($30-$40 hardcovers vs. $7-15 softcovers) and to count the cumulative pages.

That's when numbers AREN'T numbers.

 

[Maggan]

I was a little mystified by your reply to my post, frankly. I post "A is less than B". You reply: Yes, "A is less than B" and post a link to prove a point not in contention.

You ignored the entire point of my post, which is that we should be comparing the total $ value of A and the page count of A to similar values for B. (Where "A"= 3.xx and B = 2E)

To respond "numbers really are numbers" when the point of my post was not to compare "# of books" but instead to look at the cumulative $$ value of the retail products ($30-$40 hardcovers vs. $7-15 softcovers) and to count the cumulative pages.

That's when numbers AREN'T numbers.

Dollar value? i don't know. How would you count that? Average selling price adjusted for inflation? I still have a very hard time thinking that the combined cost for aquiring every single item for 2nd edition (around 750 books) was less than it has been to aquire the entirety of 3e (around 180 books). Or maybe I'm not understanding what you're after?

Number of pages? It is my firm belief that the amount of product that TSR put out for 2e contain a total of more pages than the amount of product put out by WotC.

For it to be otherwise, the 2e books would have had to be really, really, really slim. Even if we set the 2e material at an average of 100 pages, that means that 3e material has to average between 350 and 375 pages just to match the output of 2e.

That's what I see when looking at the list of products; an overwhelming amount of 2e material, in number of books, in total number of pages, and I wager also in a total dollar value adjusted for inflation.

But I guess that's not enough for you, but I'm afraid I have no other evidence than those lists to back up my theory.

/M