Difficult Terrain when moving

[Merkuri]

When moving from one square to another if the squares have different types of terrain, which square affects your movement? The one you move into, or the one you move out of? For example, if you are moving from a difficult terrain square to a normal square, can you take a 5-ft step?

This came up in the Knight with spiked chain thread and I thought I'd give it its own poll to see what the community thought.

Oh, and here's the verbage from the SRD that I think is relevant. There may be more that I didn't read:

Difficult terrain hampers movement. Each square of difficult terrain counts as 2 squares of movement. (Each diagonal move into a difficult terrain square counts as 3 squares.) You can’t run or charge across difficult terrain.

If you occupy squares with different kinds of terrain, you can move only as fast as the most difficult terrain you occupy will allow.

Flying and incorporeal creatures are not hampered by difficult terrain.

 

[moritheil]

How about a poll option for "both?"

 

[TheGogmagog]

It's been the one you move into when discussed before.

http://www.enworld.org/archive/index.php/t-189549.html
http://www.enworld.org/archive/index.php/t-182285.html

 

[Deset Gled]

How about a poll option for "both?"

Ditto. Per the text "If you occupy squares with different kinds of terrain, you can move only as fast as the most difficult terrain you occupy will allow", you use whichever is the most limiting, whether its the square you move into or the square you move out of. You can't 5' step into the bushes, nor can you 5' step out of them.

 

[Merkuri]

How about a poll option for "both?"

Whoops, forgot that option. Is there a way to edit a poll? I don't see one. Sorry.

 

[Nail]

How about a poll option for "both?"

That's not the correct option.

When you can move 6 squares (30ft), which counts as first square of that movement? (Hint: it's not the square you currently occupy.)

 

[Nail]

Ditto. Per the text "If you occupy squares with different kinds of terrain, you can move only as fast as the most difficult terrain you occupy will allow", you use whichever is the most limiting, whether its the square you move into or the square you move out of.

It doesn't say "move out of".

 

[RigaMortus2]

It doesn't say "move out of".

No, but it does says you can move only as fast as the most difficult terrain you occupy will allow. Which is essentially the same thing. If I am in difficult terrain, I am occupying that 5 foot square of difficult terrain. I can only move as fast as the most difficult terrain I occupy. So when I move out of it, I can only move so fast based on the difficult terrain rules.

Hope that was clear.

 

[DreadArchon]

I don't get why this is being discussed.

Difficult terrain, obstacles, or poor visibility can hamper movement. When movement is hampered, each square moved into usually counts as two squares, effectively reducing the distance that a character can cover in a move.

(The "usually" is there because they can actually count as more.)

In the spiked chain example, you definitely can't step up to the Knight, because he threatens that space and the squares he threatens are difficult terrain.

 

[pawsplay]

No, but it does says you can move only as fast as the most difficult terrain you occupy will allow. Which is essentially the same thing. If I am in difficult terrain, I am occupying that 5 foot square of difficult terrain. I can only move as fast as the most difficult terrain I occupy. So when I move out of it, I can only move so fast based on the difficult terrain rules.

Hope that was clear.

I don't see moving out of difficult terrain as occupying it. For instance, if I leave my house, I no longer occupy it.