Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes OOC II

[Xath]

Double Post.

 

[Laurel]

Arthurian myth....

From the Mists of Avalon::
Arthur: I call on the powers of Heaven and Earth, aid me now! I call upon the God of Heaven, and the Goddess of the Earth, help me now!
Viviane: You call upon the God, and the Goddess? It is the Goddess who answers.

 

[The_Universe]

In my opinion, Google=Bardic Knowledge

I'm taking the iniative, because I really don't think you want to compile every reference to Tiamat, shadows, Mordred the Black, etc. that Xath could pull out of her brain.

Know thine enemy. I'm really trying here. Help me not to metagame by telling me what I know. I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that trying to piece together bits and pieces of Earth mythology would be roughly equivalent to trying to postulate theories of Tiamat and her followers based on myths and stories.

Sorry if that came across as sarcastic. I am perfectly fine with you trying to google out some answers to the mystery. That's why I was directing you to Arthurian Myth. If tiamat is Morganna, than Oberon must have been...?

Anything from the Mists of Avalon can probably be ignored, though. I *love* Arthurian myth, but I *loathe* Marion Zimmer Bradley. She makes a perfectly noble myth a justification for incest, and...yuck. It's like reading a freakin' Piers Anthony book. *shudder.* But that's just me. I suspect Mists appeals a great deal more to the female reader.

Mad Merlin, Celtika, the Pendragon Cycle, Serpent and Grail, Orion, Pantheon.org, etc. (among other things) are my primary influences on the subject. However, I have read mists of avalon, so something from that might have crept in there...

Anyway, in-game, remember that Mordred's statue is much larger than Tiamat's. That may be just because Mordred's statue was bigger to start with, but it may also have a deeper significance. The draconids don't strike you as being overly matriarchal, so keep that in mind, as well...

And to Gertie specifically: I am pretty sure I have told you everything that Xath knows abotu Tiamat, but there isn't a lot known. She was a demigoddess of lies, and deception--not a lot of accurate public record as a result. It would take some research and specific questions for me to be able to tell you more, within the reach of existing information.

 

[Xath]

I must have misinterpreted, I'm sorry.

I thought that information on Oberon and Tiamat would be like information on the Greek gods and godesses. So tales of Tiamat are not as plentiful as those of Zeus and Hera.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Is it bad that that quote made my day? Hilarious!

Plus the image of conveniently stackable elves being manhandled into position by some poor stockboy. Heh heh heh.

I like legos.

 

[The_Universe]

Tales of Oberon are very common, but Tiamat has apparently not always taken a directly adversarial role. In the cycle of tales that deal with the founding of the current dyansty, there is speculation that several of the women of power may have been Tiamat in disguise...but it is no more than the flights of fancy of talespinners and bards, as far as you can tell.

Tales of Aon, Moradin, Govannon, Maewys I, Dumathion, etc. are the tales that fill the kind of mythological role that the Greek Pantheon does in the real world present.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

that made for some good reading. yup that's right, i Mick Ivan Nichols, aka "He Who Shall Not Read" read it all. it was cool. but i don't think we can count on gods to help us. this is our fight to win or loose.
mik aka ....

Amen, Mik.

You make a valid point that I think we need to stick to. Now, it is time to fight out fight. We need to slash, hack, and chop things to teeny tiny bits. That is what will stop the army. The draconids, by my best guess, fear little. We would do much better to focus on the best methods of actual attacking, as opposed to how to decieve them.

 

[Xath]

My brain hurts.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

To come back to the issue that I think is probably the most important for the next session:

If we choose to open the gates for the elves, are we setting ourselves up for disaster?

Please, help me to examine the consequences for that particular course of action because, now, it seems that any magical means of saving them is either too complicated to be undertaken with such short notice or, simply, impossible...

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

My brain hurts.

It's probably because you are thinking way too hard. Scaring the draconids is really really really unlikely...

We smash. End of story.