I'm with Mik on this one--there's no harm in trying. It's not like the rod blows up if somone makes their save. If nothing else, use it on dumb creatures, and make them attack the dragon...just make sure you're only ruling people you want ruled with the thing. After all, even if they don't manage to kill it, you'll at least have eliminated 300 Hit die worth of baddies.Archon said:we could at least try it. what would be cooler then having our own Dragon. it'd be a nice way to make the odds a little more even. i think it's worth a shot.
mik
Queen_Dopplepopolis said:The planning process--in a situation like this-- is a very complicated one. The most important thing to do right now is to recognize that we are up against horrific odds and simply focus on doing all that we can to, probably not defeat, but dent the forces that we are fighting.
We get in there (I thought the plan was to teleport, L'Aurel), we smash, and if things get bad, we fight to the last. Retreat at this point is probably not an option-- can we all agree on that?
And if so be ready to die terrific heroes deaths!
Sounds good to me.AIM-54 said:As I understood it, we'd teleport out (or even walk out, as we're intending to be there before the bad guys get there) and then once overwhelmed, we'd teleport back to the city to help out, act as a mobile anti-dragon/wyvern unit, that type thing. So, no retreat, but a quick change of venue to prevent the town from falling any sooner than necessary.
Does that make sense? Am I missing something?
Heehee and there's always at least a teensy little chance that they could failArchon said:we could at least try it. what would be cooler then having our own Dragon. it'd be a nice way to make the odds a little more even. i think it's worth a shot.
mik
The rod of rulership is as difficult to resist, regardless of who is weilding it. The only difficulty a less-intelligent character might have is phrasing orders in a way to ensure that the compulsion never breaks the ruled creatures' "nature."Laurel said:Heehee and there's always at least a teensy little chance that they could failand as stated if they succeed in their save then we just move on, but hey we have it why not use it...
Is the save against who uses the rod or who made the rod or some combo of both? Sorry technicality I don't know.
--Just for if Justice is turning and Xath is lightning bolt and Arhcon and L'Aurel are usin' the bows maybe Arfin or Kareth could try the ruling thing. Obviously, if it uses the PCs stats this may not work so well, but random thought.
You have to KEEP ruling it, though. You can't just say "you're my friend" and have it believe you for more than the time that you are actively ruling it.Archon said:we could at least try it. what would be cooler then having our own Dragon. it'd be a nice way to make the odds a little more even. i think it's worth a shot.
mik
Very true. But don't give up on the rod. To give you an example of the capabilities we're talking about here, you are all 10 or 11 Hit die creatures in the game. Being able to command 300 hit die worth of creatures makes you *incredibly* more effective. It increases your personal capabilities to nearly thirty times their current level, all based on no more than concentration.Queen_Dopplepopolis said:You have to KEEP ruling it, though. You can't just say "you're my friend" and have it believe you for more than the time that you are actively ruling it.
Making it our friend is probably against it's nature... and would require that myself, or whoever is using the rod, continually rule the dragon for the entire time it is around us.