(Discussion) General Part I

[Velmont]

I'm only a player, and I know no new God are accepted for now, but still, I have a suggestion for one. In most world, the death god his an evil guy, and I never liked this idea, because death is the most neutral thing I know, as evry living things are meant to die, so here my idea of a God of death.

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Motadem
"mor-ta-dèm"
Keeper of Souls, The Guide

Enworldian Deity
Symbol: Hourglass engraved on a tombstone
Home Plane: Outland
Alignment: Neutral
Portfolio: Death and souls
Worshipers: Any living creature
Cleric Alignments: N, LN, CN, NG, NE
Domains: [To determine]
Favored Weapon: "Hand of Death" (Any Gauntlet or Unarmed)

Mortadem is the God of death. It is told he appears at everyone man on the moment of his death. He appears to them as an old friends, a death family member, a shape the dying will find friendly. He take the souls and guide them in their travel to the next life. He make no difference between people, he doesn't consider who they are and what they have done, as everyone is equal in death.

His followers are their to prepare the people to the travel they will have to do, to next stage of their live. They must never judge a soul for any reason as they will have the same faith as anyone else. The only exception, it is the undeads. Those creature are an offence to their God, as they havn't accepted the hand of Mortadem at the moment of their death. They hunt the undeads so their souls can be finally release and take the trip to the next stage.

Most followers turn and destroy undeads, but it happen they choose to control undeads. Those are known as ghost hunter, as most of the time, they try to use their power on ghost to question them on their reason to stay on this world as undead and try to end their torture.
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The only thing I'm wondering, it is what domain to give him. As neutral, he give no alignement domain. The death domain have create undeads spells, which is against his ethic. He doesn't kill, he just help the souls on their next world. SO, what do you think of it?

 

[Macbeth]

Thanks for the input, Thels. I'll take that into account. I personaly see him as NG, but the concept seems to come across as N, so I think I'll wait for a little more input before making a final decision. It would be nice to hear from GaryH, Creamsteak, or Uriel_fire_of_heavean on this, since they seem to be the final decision makers.
It seems that Neutral on the Law-Chaos axis is acceptable, its only the Good-Evil axis thats debateable. I would stand be my earlier statement that Verdante, being protector of the natural cycle, and nature in particular, and an advocate of the beauty of nature and its changes would be NG, but if the popular opinion is that this is

I've started a thread in the General forum with a poll on the Alignment for Verdante. Please check it out and post your vote here.

 

[Macbeth]

Wow, the polls doing well, so far I already have 1 vote each for NG, CG, LN, and CN, and 3 votes for N. Looks like it may be True N after all. But the poll continues, this is not a definite answer...

 

[Thels]

Velmont> Death is not a god, it's a supernatural being.

The gods of death are those that mess around with the death, causing people to die and dead people to walk.

 

[WizWrm]

Some of these might already have been answered, but....

1) Are we using the standard Manual of the Planes cosmology with no alterations (besides deities)?

2) How much does the standard character know about the cosmology? For example: Are they aware (to a greater or lesser degree, of course, depending on their profession and studies) of all the different planes? Do they know they will go to their deities' home plane when they die, or do they just think of it as 'heaven'? Do they know deities aren't all-powerful and all-knowing?

3) Is Sigil/Union being used?

 

[Thels]

Death is actually a good point. What is going to happen to characters that die? Are they gonna be revived in some way (perhaps only once they reached a certain level?) or is the player forced to start anew? In the latter case, would he have to start back at level 1 or say one level below his last character?

The last method is the only method to introduce bigger than 1 ECL creatures at a later date, but it seems like the least pleasing method, as it allows characters to enter that weren't built up from level 1, whereas that would always be possible in living campaigns, since you don't have to be balanced with all the highlevel characters.

 

[Velmont]

Velmont> Death is not a god, it's a supernatural being.

The gods of death are those that mess around with the death, causing people to die and dead people to walk.

Personally, I think death is an end, but I like the idea of such God in a fantasy world. And why their could be such a god? Anyway, your argument is a bit weak, because Dieties are supernatural beings.

This God don't prevent the creation of such Gods as you describe. Their could be even a war between Mortadem and a God of Death, pestilence and War, because the later want souls for his own and Mortadem want to preserve the souls from being slaves of any god after death.

I like the idea of this God, but as a player, anyway, I won't have the last word on it, I like this God, but I will need a DM to accept and add it.

 

[Macbeth]

Given th results of the poll on Verdante's alignment so far (I'm not finished waitingg for responses yet) I would say that Verdante MAY end up True N with a considerable amount of Good aligned followers. I think thats a good fit for the concept, and it makes him a god for all druids.

 

[doghead]

Wow, this one is moving fast.

Is there an easy way to link directly to your character description (in the rogue's gallery)?

 

[WizWrm]

No, but there's a difficult way.

Here's your link:

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1079112#post1080900