DMGenie - Masters of the Djinn Yahoo Group missing

[drakhe]

more bad reasoning...

That's where most of these arguments tend to go, wether music via napster movies via ed2k, pdfs via kazaa, or datasets via groups:

"It's OK to violate copyrights because other people do it too!!!"

This is not the only bogus reasoning: when speaking to friends or colleagues about piracy, one argument I've heard of at least a couple of people is: "I can't afford this item, so I have the right to get it any way I can". One guy in particular had bought a playstation, but (having a small salary) complained that the PS games were too expensive, so he had a right to make copies of ps games.

I've actualy been laughed at by colleagues when I told them I would buy a certain CD when they offered me a copy (my reasoning: if I like the CD I want to buy it for two reasons: a) I want to support the artist and b) I prefer the real thing with original box and booklet etc over a shabby copy anytime).

 

[DonTadow]

The insults, accusations, insinuations, and flat out declarations of theft of IP being 'Okay' are unacceptable.

But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Seems that a lot of unacceptable behaviour is allowed when it's directed at us, so I should be used to it by now.

*shrug* Whatever.

I just find it ironic after that thread this happens. Your way of "keeping in good with papa wotc" could also be deemed unacceptable. I believe there is nothing in the forum rules that says we do not have a right to voice our opinion. My opinion is based on the evidence of your companies rage displayed in the thread coupled with the timing of the thread and the shutdown of the yahoo forum.

All I said was that I'd download etool datapacks, dont really know how that equates into stealing. Now, what I didnt say was if I was going to purchase and then download them or not. Of course you can count on me to do the right thing

HOnestly its not even worth the harddrive space. HOwever I will make sure to encourage my friends to leave their computers on, put their etool datapacks in their download file folders and their file sharing software left on over night.

 

[DonTadow]

thread only days before the yahoo group disappeared.

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=146153

 

[kingpaul]

Your way of "keeping in good with papa wotc" could also be deemed unacceptable.

So, once again, you believe that its ok to infringe upon WotC's IP?

I believe there is nothing in the forum rules that says we do not have a right to voice our opinion.

Opinions, no I don't think there's a problem with that. Encouraging others to break laws, that I do believe there is a problem with

My opinion is based on the evidence of your companies rage displayed in the thread coupled with the timing of the thread and the shutdown of the yahoo forum.

What was discussed in that thread was the distribution of another's IP without their permission.

HOwever I will make sure to encourage my friends to leave their computers on, put their etool datapacks in their download file folders and their file sharing software left on over night.

So you are going to encourage your friends to break the law?

 

[kingpaul]

thread only days before the yahoo group disappeared.

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=146153

Yes, that was the thread where it was discussed that it was illegal to distribute another's IP without their permission.

 

[DonTadow]

So, once again, you believe that its ok to infringe upon WotC's IP?

Opinions, no I don't think there's a problem with that. Encouraging others to break laws, that I do believe there is a problem with

What was discussed in that thread was the distribution of another's IP without their permission.

So you are going to encourage your friends to break the law?

Again, there is no law, only minor litigation that wtoc has used to their advantage. An equal fight would see no breaking of the law for what is essentially note taking or reviewing. Perhaps I could even put jokes in my script and call it a spoof so its protected. Its murky at best. But i will encourage my friends to share any scripts they created to show their artistic talents. Whatever they decideto share is up to them. Might be a minor calculator could be notes from a book they'v read.

This thread is not about IP, its about shotty and dishonest business practices. I'll make sure to spread the word.

 

[kingpaul]

This thread is not about IP, its about shotty and dishonest business practices. I'll make sure to spread the word.

I *am* discussing the distribution of IP. Becaue you don't agree with it doesn't mean that its against the law to infringe on someone elses IP by distributing it without their permission.

 

[rom90125]

Yes, that was the thread where it was discussed that it was illegal to distribute another's IP without their permission.

Once again, both CMP and PCGen have communities. We also don't advocate the dissemination of someone else's IP.

KingPaul, you might want to be a bit more judicious with your comments. The aforementioned quote could imply that you are slandering other products mentioned in these threads. Thus far, no one has said anything about RolePlayingMaster, DMGenie, Kloogewerks, or any other product advocating the dissemination of someone else's IP. Bad form KingPaul...

 

[kingpaul]

KingPaul, you might want to be a bit more judicious with your comments. The aforementioned quote could imply that you are slandering other products mentioned in these threads. Thus far, no one has said anything about RolePlayingMaster, DMGenie, Kloogewerks, or any other product advocating the dissemination of someon else's IP. Bad form KingPaul...

Allow me to point at this post: http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2535260&postcount=7

There DonTadow states that WotC books can be found in DMGenie's forums. Why is it bad form for me to point this out?

 

[rom90125]

So KingPaul and Mynex,

I'll bite the bait and ask straight up (assuming you'll be honest with your response). Is CMG on a witchhunt? Are the monkeys policing the Wizard's IP?