Do Flaming and Flaming Burst stack?

[Sejs]

This is less than a simple +1 energy enhancement (+1d6) gets you.

Except that the Burst quality also includes the +1 appropriate energy enhancement. So with the Keen Flaming-Burst Scythe +1, you're doing 2d4 +1, +1d6 fire on a normal hit, and 2d4 +1 (x4), +3d10 fire, +1d6 fire on a crit.


edit: forgot "on a crit"

 

[LordAO]

Considering one could just add shocking or some other element, I see no problem with flaming stacking with flaming burst. Same exact damage bonus, just more specialized in a single element.

 

[kreynolds]

Considering one could just add shocking or some other element...

Also depends on who you ask. Sage, no. CS, yes. Monte, yes. SKR, yes.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Also depends on who you ask. CS...

Heh.

-Hyp.

 

[frankthedm]

combining fire and lightning sound resonable. combining fire and ice sounds self defeating [most dm's i know would have the two effects negate each other.]

 

[Hypersmurf]

combining fire and ice sounds self defeating [most dm's i know would have the two effects negate each other.]

What's your take on Tome and Blood's Energy Admixture feat, out of curiosity?

Would a Cold-Admixed Fireball yield zero damage?

-Hyp.

 

[the Jester]

Energy admixture always makes me think of the old 'fireball then cone of cold' trick you could sometimes get away with back in the day. You know, unequal expansion and contraction making rocks and golems and stuff explode.

 

[frankthedm]

IF i allowed that [ i think its an attempt to let sorcerers psudo [sp]quicken] the fire or cold would negate the weaker like so

IF

10d6 of fire rolls to 45

10d6 of cold rolls to 40

then 5 points of fire damage is scored.

as long as the two types of energy don't negate one another it would work.

 

[Norfleet]

Well, if the damage is applied in sequence of cold first, then heat, you should get a bonus. If the damage is applied simultaneously, the cold and the heat should cancel each other out, resulting in a loss of effectiveness.

This is, however, the rules forum, and there's no rule specifying this behavior.

 

[Noldor Elf]

The only mention about cold and fire damage cancelling each other out can be found from spell description of Heat Metal (and Chill Metal)

Any cold intense enough to damage the creature negates heat damage from the spell (and vice versa) on a point-for-point basis.

Because it is separated stated on spell description, I suppose it should be seen as an exception.