Do you like Warhammer FRP 4th edition?

[GreyLord]

Unfortunately the new edition comes across as a bad fan job of 2E.

Almost every conceivable option has been tweaked.

Individually graded, many of them are even quite nice. You can easily point to a page and claim they solved this or that problem with the previous editions.

However, when you put them together, the multitude of changes creates a huge mess. The game sinks under its own weight.

This game is incredibly convoluted and massively more crunchy than either 1E or 2E. Combat runs at a crawl with loads of die rolls.

That reviewers haven't caught this is probably because it takes time before the structural flaws become apparent.

This actually reflected a LOT of my thoughts when reading through it.

They needed to stick more with a 1e or 2e system instead of trying to take them and make them more complicated and crunchy then they were.

Thus far my best solution is to take a 4e rulebook and try to play it more like 1e than the 4e stuff they've done.

 

[Retreater]

My initial reaction (posted nearly a year ago) was that I didn't think I'd like it. I downloaded the Starter Set PDF in January and on my first readthrough, didn't like it either. I signed up for a game at Origins and found that it played a lot better than it read - especially with an experienced GM running things.
I bought the core rulebook and really delved into it with the experience of playing it fresh in my mind. Decided to give the Starter Set a playthrough a few months later. It still felt clunky, needlessly complex.
By this time I bought in to The Enemy Within (TEW) campaign - since I'd been hearing good things about it for decades. I ran the first session a week ago, and it still feels a little off. The writing is good, the setting is great, but I'm just not feeling the mechanics.
I will give it a few more sessions just because of TEW and the buy-in for the story. But man, I think running this in any other low magic, gritty fantasy system would be preferable.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

As much praise as TEW gets reading the later parts of it, its incredibly railroady and the core of Power behind the Throne is IMO a bit lame.

Spoiler: PBTT spoilers

Suddenly the PC are going to switch to worrying about a tax issue? Really? "We can't find the bad guy we are looking for but man these taxes are grinding my gears! Lets go deal with this!"

I wonder how much the new version changes that, if at all?

 

[Retreater]

As much praise as TEW gets reading the later parts of it, its incredibly railroady and the core of Power behind the Throne is IMO a bit lame. I wonder how much the new version changes that, if at all?

I've heard that the ending will be completely re-written.

 

[macd21]

As much praise as TEW gets reading the later parts of it, its incredibly railroady and the core of Power behind the Throne is IMO a bit lame.

Spoiler: PBTT spoilers

Suddenly the PC are going to switch to worrying about a tax issue? Really? "We can't find the bad guy we are looking for but man these taxes are grinding my gears! Lets go deal with this!"

I wonder how much the new version changes that, if at all?

Well Something Rotten in Kislev is being completely replaced and the last book extensively rewritten I believe.

 

[PencilBoy99]

I wonder how well WFRP setting would play with a lite system like Honor and Intrigue, Renaissance D100 or medium like Shadows of the Demon Lord