D&D 4E Do you want more 4e classes, races, feats, powers, etc?
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Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
I do not feel much need for more classes.
I feel a minor need for more races, but it's not a high priority.
I do want more powers for existing classes. I think there are large swaths of common build types that are missing powers. For example, there are Wardens who slow targets on a hit as a general tactic, and the power support for that tactic is mostly there, but could use some additional powers to fill it out. I think pretty much all classes and general tactics could use more of those powers, and even Martial Power 2 didn't seem to address that need for the Martial themed classes (instead deciding to add yet more themes rather than supporting the existing ones).
I do want more feats for existing classes and races, for similar reasons to those stated above.
There are definitely a lot of races and class themes which are only thinly supported by powers and feats, which could really use a lot more support. I don't like that WOTC constantly adds more themes and feats (and classes) without fully supporting those already out there. I hope they improve on that in the future.
And, I'd like some better adventures from them, with less of a dungeon focus, and more focus on evocative descriptions descriptions and non-combat encounters.
And the digital gaming table. Boy do I want that.
I feel a minor need for more races, but it's not a high priority.
I do want more powers for existing classes. I think there are large swaths of common build types that are missing powers. For example, there are Wardens who slow targets on a hit as a general tactic, and the power support for that tactic is mostly there, but could use some additional powers to fill it out. I think pretty much all classes and general tactics could use more of those powers, and even Martial Power 2 didn't seem to address that need for the Martial themed classes (instead deciding to add yet more themes rather than supporting the existing ones).
I do want more feats for existing classes and races, for similar reasons to those stated above.
There are definitely a lot of races and class themes which are only thinly supported by powers and feats, which could really use a lot more support. I don't like that WOTC constantly adds more themes and feats (and classes) without fully supporting those already out there. I hope they improve on that in the future.
And, I'd like some better adventures from them, with less of a dungeon focus, and more focus on evocative descriptions descriptions and non-combat encounters.
And the digital gaming table. Boy do I want that.
weem
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Awww
I could run a whole campaign for players all playing Bullywugs, hehe. I have a soft spot for them for some reason (despite not liking frogs in general).
Dice4Hire
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Races: No
Classes: Maybe, but better than the PHBIII classes, none of which excited me.
Feats: Maybe, but they need to support race/class combos more.
What I want to see is more racial powers for classes, like an elven (for example) series of powers for the fighter (for example) Something like one power per level (E1, U2, E3, D1, etc) that they can choose from to really customize the race/class combo.
This would really give the racial choice some heft, and would help out races that do not really fit classes due to ability score restrictions.
Classes: Maybe, but better than the PHBIII classes, none of which excited me.
Feats: Maybe, but they need to support race/class combos more.
What I want to see is more racial powers for classes, like an elven (for example) series of powers for the fighter (for example) Something like one power per level (E1, U2, E3, D1, etc) that they can choose from to really customize the race/class combo.
This would really give the racial choice some heft, and would help out races that do not really fit classes due to ability score restrictions.
People who don't want more races: do you actually -like- the fact that there are significant bits on the stat grid that are under or unrepresented? I'm happy to get more races as long as they fill in stat pairs that don't yet have two races in them yet -- Con/Int, yes -- but also Str/Dex, Dex/Int (that's just Eladrin, right?), etc. Every stat pair should have at least two races -- and frankly, every stat pair should have at least two classes (that last may be true, as there are a lot more stat pairs from classes than races).
A possible solution would be to make a houserule giving all the races to have +2 to stat x and y or x. For instance: +2 to str and +2 to dex or int. That should fill up the gaps pretty fast.
I voted "I have had enough", which doesn't mean I am opposed to more material. It's more that I am unexcited about the new material.
Githyanki?
Ah, LFR. You said at the table, so I thought you meant ones that exist. And of course, that is designing a PC for stats, not for flavor.
36 races, most of which are supported.
25 classes, 24 hybrid classes.
418 paragon paths.
80 epic destinies.
2280 feats.
6203 powers.
292 rituals.
7914 items.
Plenty of diversity.
As is, it's difficult to even design a PC without using Character Builder or the online tools.
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