Does a divine version of Fox's Cunning exist?


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Hypersmurf said:
There are a lot of base classes out there that cast spells from the druid list, or the cleric list, or the sorcerer/wizard list. Would you consider all of them to be listless?

Hey now! Even though she gets seasick from time to time, my archivist is hardly listless! :D

...er, anyway...
 

Tiberius said:
Given that this character is an archivist, it works just fine for her. IIRC, they can scribe any divine scroll, regardless of on whose list it appears.

That's truly an interesting concept. Maybe I should start getting cozy with the ship's sorcerer (although he's way too young!) :p

Anyway, I'm quite sure the DM wouldn't allow it (the divine translation idea, that is).
 

Hypersmurf said:
There are a lot of base classes out there that cast spells from the druid list, or the cleric list, or the sorcerer/wizard list. Would you consider all of them to be listless?

-Hyp.

Good point and explanation enough for me. Although I would not consider spells in their book but not on the cleric list to be 'in their list'.
 

Similarly, is there a way for Clerics to prepare Cat's Grace? I've got a half-orc clr/ftr wielding a spiked-chain that would occasionally appreciate the extra AOOs when Enlarged.
 

Legildur said:
Similarly, is there a way for Clerics to prepare Cat's Grace? I've got a half-orc clr/ftr wielding a spiked-chain that would occasionally appreciate the extra AOOs when Enlarged.

Elf, Halfling, or Celerity domains? Magic Domain plus a wand? Anyspell? Miracle?

-Hyp.
 

Dracorat said:
Good point and explanation enough for me. Although I would not consider spells in their book but not on the cleric list to be 'in their list'.

Why not just say you don't like it and won't let it in your game.

When a GM has hidden prejudices, he's not really "letting" somebody use something he doesn't like ... he's setting them up to repeatedly punish them for going against his will for the rest of the game.

For my part I say: "Eh, I don't like it." to Archivists using the Scribe Scroll Loophole. I tell people it doesn't work before they start making characters. Druid, Paladin, Ranger, Adept, all fine. The class gets enough added power there.

The Fox's Cunning issue is fleeting. By middle levels, the Headband of Intellect +4 will make it redudant and the +6 will make it useless.

--fje
 

Hypersmurf said:
Elf, Halfling, or Celerity domains? Magic Domain plus a wand? Anyspell? Miracle?
The first three aren't in the PHB, but I doubt a half-orc would qualify for the first two in any case. ;)

Magic domain wasn't an option (Kord), so took Luck domain.

I guess I'll just have to rely on my friendly neighbourhood wizard, or maybe a wand (if we find one), or even the Rogue with the wand and UMD.

Spell wasn't updated in Spell Compendium to include clerics????
 


Legildur said:
The first three aren't in the PHB, but I doubt a half-orc would qualify for the first two in any case. ;)

Magic domain wasn't an option (Kord), so took Luck domain.

I guess I'll just have to rely on my friendly neighbourhood wizard, or maybe a wand (if we find one), or even the Rogue with the wand and UMD.

Spell wasn't updated in Spell Compendium to include clerics????

Again, research one. A spell that augments your physical prowess is perfectly in-line with the idea of a priest of Kord.

Kord's all about the physical perfection. Physical perfection should definitely include paying attention to your dexterity.
 

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