Does A Human Born On A Plane Other Than The Prime Have The Extraplanar Subtype?

[Studio69]

As the title of the thread. I'm working up some NPCs and this info would be helpful.

 

[Vegepygmy]

Extraplanar Subtype: A subtype applied to any creature when it is on a plane other than its native plane. A creature that travels the planes can gain or lose this subtype as it goes from plane to plane. This book assumes that encounters with creatures take place on the Material Plane, and every creature whose native plane is not the Material Plane has the extraplanar subtype (but would not have when on its home plane). Every extraplanar creature in this book has a home plane mentioned in its description. These home planes are taken from the Great Wheel cosmology of the D&D game (see Chapter 5 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide). If your campaign uses a different cosmology, you will need to assign different home planes to extraplanar creatures.

Creatures not labeled as extraplanar are natives of the Material Plane, and they gain the extraplanar subtype if they leave the Material Plane. No creature has the extraplanar subtype when it is on a transitive plane; the transitive planes in the D&D cosmology are the Astral Plane, the Ethereal Plane, and the Plane of Shadow.
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So the answer depends on whether one's "native plane" is the plane on which one was born, or the plane that is "home" to one's race. I don't know of any clear official ruling on the matter, but I found this:

Natives: The Material Plane is home for most of the well-known creatures of the D&D cosmology, including dragons, animals, undead, and of course the player characters' races. All creature types other than outsiders and elementals consider the Material Plane their native plane.

This leads me to believe that it is the creature's race (or type) that determines its "native plane," and not its plane of birth. If so, then a human born on a non-transitive plane other than the Prime Material would indeed have the extraplanar subtype.

 

[Shin Okada]

I am not sure if one race is always tied to one plane. I am asking similar question in another thread.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=239142

3.5e introduced the concept of Native Outsider. In case of half-breed or "ancestor is outsider" races, we can safely say their blood of material plane creature is stronger and thus they are native to material plane. But other Native Outsiders like Rakshasa confuses me. They are originally from some other plane but now settled long enough to be considered as a native outsider. That means, a race's native plane may change by time.

Another example is Githyanki and Githzerai. They were not originally from Astral Plane nor Limbo. Also, MoP shows many creatures usually seen in material plane as the resident of certain non-material plane. And, some "any good" celestials can be seen in various upper planes.

Also, there are outsiders like Mercane, which has no native plane written in their entry.

So it is unclear if one race is always tied to a certain plane.

If one race's natural plane change by time, it is possible that human race living generations in Sigil may have Outlands as their home plane. And one race may have more than one planes as their home planes. I mean, it is like sub-race. Mainstream of human are native to material plane. But there are, say, "Outlands" version of human and such.

If a cosmology has more than one material plane, it will become much obvious. Most major races and animals may be seen in each of the material planes. And they have their own material plane as their native plane.

As the rule does not clearlly difine this issue, it is up to the DM ultimately, I guess.

 

[FEADIN]

As said above there is no clear rule but I think that's the ancestors that give you the subtype, if your parents are human from the Prime Matérial Plane you will not be Extraplanar on the Prime, if you have outsiders (extraplanar creature on the Prime) in your ancestors you can get the subtype, it depends on the DM.
The Dark template (Tome of Magic) gives you the extraplanar subtype because somewhere in your ancestors there was a creature from the Shadow Plane.

 

[Nifft]

In my game, it would, because in my campaign, the soul joins the body when a creature takes its first breath: its "inspiration", if you will.

Pazuzu becomes one of the nastiest of nasties, because "bad air" = bad people.

Cheers, -- N

 

[taliesin15]

IMC, generally, humans (and demi-humans & humanoids) are from the Material Plane, but not necessarily from the same world (or even galaxy or "universe" as it were). Most can interbreed as they can on their home planet, though I would imagine that there could be distinct genetic differences between humans from discrete worlds that would prevent this, though that has nothing to do with your direct question. The answer to which would be no, all creatures from the Material Plane would not have Extraplanar qualities on other Material Plane worlds (even though they might have to travel through extraplanar paths to jump from world to world if they don't have say an Elvish Magical Spaceship)...