Does anti-magic field work on Epic Spells?

[Arravis]

Does anti-magic field work on Epic Spells? I have a friend that beleives not... but I thought it did. Anyone know for certain?

 

[kreynolds]

ELH, page 73, sidebar...

Antimagic field does not automatically suppress epic spells as it does standard spells. Instead, each time an epic spell is subject to an antimagic field, make a dispel check as a 20th-level caster (1d20 + 20). The epic spell has a DC of 11 + the epic spell's spellcaster level. If the suppression check is successful, the epic spell is suppressed like any other spell. If the dispel check is unsuccessful, the epic spell functions normally.

 

[Crothian]

So, once I become 30th spellcaster level my Epic Spells are immune to Antimagic field? Cool

 

[kreynolds]

So, once I become 30th spellcaster level my Epic Spells are immune to Antimagic field? Cool

Pretty much. At that point, you need an epic spell with the Dispel seed.

 

[Randolph Carter]

Pretty much. At that point, you need an epic spell with the Dispel seed.

There’s always Mordenkainen’s Disjunction (PHB Sor/Wiz 9). Never leave your tower without it.

Tyranny,
PTL

 

[kreynolds]

There’s always Mordenkainen’s Disjunction (PHB Sor/Wiz 9).

I don't know about that. It would be interesting to see how it would interact with an epic spell, although something tells me that an epic spell would slap Mord's Disjunction like a red-headed step child. I'd probably treat an epic spell as an artifact in regards to Mord's Disjunction.

Antimagic Field doesn't work. Dispel Magic won't do the trick, although Greater Dispel will if you're very very lucky, and in regards to spell level and spell power, Mord's Disjunction is only 3 higher than Greater Dispel. That's not quite high enough in my book.

 

[Grazzt]

...although Greater Dispel will if you're very very lucky, and in regards to spell level and spell power, Mord's Disjunction is only 3 higher than Greater Dispel. That's not quite high enough in my book.

I think I would allow Mordenkainen's Disjunction to affect epic spells for two reasons:

#1- it is three levels higher than Greater dispelling (which has a chance, albeit a slim one, to affect epic spells)

#2- Mordenkainen's disjunction even says it can affect artifacts (page 230, PHB) though the chance is slim.

 

[Grazzt]

So, once I become 30th spellcaster level my Epic Spells are immune to Antimagic field? Cool

Unless your DM goes with the variant Open Ended Rolls (page 110, ELH). A roll of 20 allows you to roll again and add 20 to the result. If you roll 20 again, roll a third time and add 40 to the result.

This reduces the likelyhood of auto success and failure for checks, saves, attacks, etc.

 

[kreynolds]

#1- it is three levels higher than Greater dispelling (which has a chance, albeit a slim one, to affect epic spells)

Then you and I are on opposite ends of the pole, for this is exactly the reason why I wouldn't let it work any better than it would on artifacts.

#2- Mordenkainen's disjunction even says it can affect artifacts (page 230, PHB) though the chance is slim.

OK. Maybe this puts us in the middle of the pole then.

A 1% chance of affecting an epic spell wouldn't upset my stomach. So, yeah, go ahead and burn that 9th level spell.

EDIT: Figured out the difference between "poll" and "pole". Gosh, I'm smart.

 

[kreynolds]

Unless your DM goes with the variant Open Ended Rolls (page 110, ELH).

Yeah, I've really been eyeballing that variant. I think it's a damn good idea.