Does anybody know how well D&D has been doing?

[Klaus]

Brazil is arguably the second-largest RPG market in the Americas, and D&D is barely translated here. So far we've had releases of:

PH1
PH2
DMG
MM
DM Screen

Adventurer's Vault
PH Races: Dragonborn
Martial Power

Keep on the Shadowfell
Thunderspire Labyrinth

FR Campaign Setting
FR Player's Guide

In addition to few releases, the books are too expensive for the average gamer (who is usually in high school or starting college).

 

[Kzach]

Everybody knows that 4e killed D&D and is bankrupting WotC. You just have to look at all the anecdotal evidence for proof of the trooth.

 

[I'm A Banana]

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(the above represents more the tone of these threads than the reality of WotC's situation. )

 

[Incenjucar]

Brazil is arguably the second-largest RPG market in the Americas, and D&D is barely translated here. So far we've had releases of:

PH1
PH2
DMG
MM
DM Screen

Adventurer's Vault
PH Races: Dragonborn
Martial Power

Keep on the Shadowfell
Thunderspire Labyrinth

FR Campaign Setting
FR Player's Guide

In addition to few releases, the books are too expensive for the average gamer (who is usually in high school or starting college).

Poor 4E. It's such a beautiful system, but it keeps getting damaged by business choices and practices.

 

[ComradeGnull]

It's interesting to note that a poke through Hasbro's recent investor relations docs shows almost no mention of D&D, or any other WotC property. Magic gets a nod or two, but that's it. Implies that D&D is small potatoes to Hasbro from a revenue standpoint. That can be interpreted a couple ways; since Magic is a money maker and D&D is a potentially valueable license property for other products, Hasbro might not care to meddle too much as long as Magic still makes money. On the other hand, it may also mean that someone at Hasbro is looking at the property as underperforming relative to it's value as a brand, and put some pressure on WotC to raise its profile. Still just reading tea leaves, though.

 

[The Little Raven]

It's interesting to note that a poke through Hasbro's recent investor relations docs shows almost no mention of D&D, or any other WotC property. Magic gets a nod or two, but that's it. Implies that D&D is small potatoes to Hasbro from a revenue standpoint. That can be interpreted a couple ways; since Magic is a money maker and D&D is a potentially valueable license property for other products, Hasbro might not care to meddle too much as long as Magic still makes money. On the other hand, it may also mean that someone at Hasbro is looking at the property as underperforming relative to it's value as a brand, and put some pressure on WotC to raise its profile. Still just reading tea leaves, though.

D&D never gets mentioned by Hasbro, which makes the complaints about Hasbro messing with it all the more hilarious.

 

[Locutus Zero]

Between the basic fact that one only needs so many books to run an RPG, and the online DDI stuff making the hard copies obsolete, I'm not surprised that 4e isn't doing well in FLGSs. About the only thing I could see buying from WotC now, aside from my yearly DDI sub, is some good paragon adventures (I sometimes use those published in Dungeon, but a full color, fleshed out package like Gardmoor Abbey is better).

 

[PeelSeel2]

4th edition is doing fine. In the FLGS channel, pathfinder is beating it, but in online sales, they do about the same. The kicker is DDI, which out performs on a month to month basis all book sales by a very, very large margin.

The christmas lay-offs are no big deal. They happen every year. They will continue to happen. And people will pin their sky is falling on D&D screams on it every year.

Strategically, D&D is right on track. It has to transition from an analog game to a digital game, which is very tricky, and their is not a road map. DDI is the beginning of that transition, and it has been successful by analog sales standards.

Consumption of books and games are changing very rapidly. Their is always going to be a market for a social game like D&D, but how we get our crunch and fluff for it are dramtically changing.

 

[Rechan]

4th edition is doing fine. In the FLGS channel, pathfinder is beating it, but in online sales, they do about the same. The kicker is DDI, which out performs on a month to month basis all book sales by a very, very large margin.

Where are you getting your online sales info vs. LGS info?

 

[UngainlyTitan]

Where are you getting your online sales info vs. LGS info?

More to the point, where is the knowledge of the value of DDI coming from?