Does anyone miss the generic cleric?
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Halivar
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Incidently, the word wizard comes from the old celtic word wisard which literally meant wise one. The wisard was part of a cabal who led religious rites among Germano-celtic druids, who, contrary to popular belief, did not worship "nature" but worshipped their own regional pantheons (many borrowed from the Greeks, believe it or not, such as Ewah, the celtic version of Artemis or Daphne).Gez said:
PS: Wouldn't it be funny if I was wrong? I probably am; don't quote me EVAR!
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MeepoTheMighty
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For all your professed love of 1st edition, did you ever, say, actually play the game? It didn't matter if you worshipped the god of peace, love, and fluffy bunnies or the god of mayhem and slaughter, your cleric ended up the same. There was one spell list which didn't change, and every cleric was stuck using blunt weapons because for some silly reason they "weren't allowed to shed blood." I can't comprehend how on earth you could claim that 3rd edition gave birth to generic powergamed clerics, unless perhaps you're playing with some very uncreative powergamers.diaglo said:
Tarrasque Wrangler
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Hear hear. Give me the generic "powergamed" clerics of 3E over the illogically generic clerics of 1E.MeepoTheMighty said:
As for me, I couldn't live without a nicely flashed-out pantheon in my world. I think that's one of the most enjoyable bits of building a campaign world.
In regards to the original poster, I'm a little confused about your controversy. You've got one person who thinks made-up gods for a game of make-believe is somehow unrighteous, and another group who thinks Bane and Mystra are real and deserving of worship? I'd say get a nutjob-free group.
Jakathi
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um people.
um people, remember.
This is only a game.
This is only a game
If it were a real situation,
you would be told by your nearest
church to break out the holy water
and your maces of disruption and +3 clubs.
Thankfully, it is only a game.
Take a moment and breathe.......
um people, remember.
This is only a game.
This is only a game
If it were a real situation,
you would be told by your nearest
church to break out the holy water
and your maces of disruption and +3 clubs.
Thankfully, it is only a game.
Take a moment and breathe.......
Brennin Magalus
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Numion said:Well, diaglo's tripe was fun for the first hundred posts .. no, wait, it really wasn't
I don't know what is more annoying, a 1E fanatic or a 2E fanatic.
shadow
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Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Actually this isn't my current group. The person who was a conservative Christian played with me in high school some years ago. He really didn't have a major problem with D&D, but was a little uncomfortable about having religion play an active role in the game. Overall it wasn't a major problem since we usually just played Gurps: Sci-Fi. (Believe it or not, there are some conservative Christians that play RPGs! Not every gamer is an atheist, agnostic, pagan, or even a member of a liberal Christian sect.)
Again, the person who was got a little too into D&D was another person I played with in high school. Apparently she was into wicca and neo-paganism. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand in wicca a person can pick a historical deity to be a focus and represent the divine. Apparently she picked the Forgotten Realms diety (not the original Finnish diety) Meilikki to be her representation of the god/godess, because she thought that the way Meilikki was depicted in the Forgotten Realms novels represented her beliefs perfectly (respect for nature, not to mention the patron deity of Drizzt
). Anyway, she really conflicted with a lot of members in our group for obvious reasons. We ended up more of less kicking her out.I guess it goes to show you that gamers are quite a diverse bunch. I've played with people who have been neo-pagans, conservative Christians, atheists, and agnostics. Most gamers are pretty cool people, but their are some weird ones.
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