Does anyone miss the generic cleric?

[Desdichado]

In my opinion, the cleric has never been generic. The concept of the D&D cleric actually kinda rubs me the wrong way; I'm not a fan of that class at all. In most of the groups I play with, nobody wants to play one, even if they are supposed to be the "most overcompensated class."

 

[WizarDru]

it would be nice to see something Original too.

i happen to play this game. it is always good to keep up with what's happening....even if rerun died.

believe it or not i was around here when Eric ran the boards.

i am a fan of D&D. just some versions are not as inspiring to me.

nor are the gamers who play them.

None of which answers my original question. There is a perfectly good D&D community that exists for enthusiasts of your version, many of whom share your opinion of 3e. Why do you insist on going so far out of your way to insult so many people here and sour every conversation you join? You're entitled to your opinion, but must you force it on us at every conceivable point? In this thread, it makes some amount of sense, but you do it everywhere at every turn. The Onion had an article about that sort of behavior, it was just about someone who constantly felt the need to point out that he didn't watch TV and no longer owned one. Newsflash: Most gamers have no desire to return to OD&D, even amongst those of us old enough to remember playing it and have some degree of nostalgia about it. Never mind the fact that many of today's gamers never played it, and would view it the same way they would view Pong from 1974. You think that D&D has gotten worse with each successive release -- we got it, OK?

 

[diaglo]

You think that D&D has gotten worse with each successive release -- we got it, OK?

and you think it's gotten better, i got it, OK?

reverse your argument and take a look at where i'm sitting.

edit: my one voice of disagreement is not going to upset your applecart. so save your vehemence.

 

[Altalazar]

Interesting !

Care to share ?


Chacal

Well, just to be clear, I didn't rewrite everything in the 2e complete priest's handbook, but I did make up a rather complete pantheon of my own, using that as a base and inspiration, and then I converted that to 3e. It is rather long, though, so I wonder what would be the best way to share it? There are like 20 dieties / specialty priests. I suppose I could also share the world history - that'd really make for a long post. Probably needs to go in a different forum.

 

[Chacal]

Well, just to be clear, I didn't rewrite everything in the 2e complete priest's handbook, but I did make up a rather complete pantheon of my own, using that as a base and inspiration, and then I converted that to 3e.

I understood that, it's just that I'm quite sure that at least some of the deities you created could be used either directly or with some conversion in other campaigns. Unless you've got only ultra specific deities like the god of the flumphs

It is rather long, though, so I wonder what would be the best way to share it? There are like 20 dieties / specialty priests. I suppose I could also share the world history - that'd really make for a long post. Probably needs to go in a different forum.

Unless you've got some web space,
world history could go in plot and places, and the specialty priests and deities could go in the house rule forum (a few at a time, for avoiding flooding the poor forum )


Chacal

 

[Altalazar]

I understood that, it's just that I'm quite sure that at least some of the deities you created could be used either directly or with some conversion in other campaigns. Unless you've got only ultra specific deities like the god of the flumphs


Unless you've got some web space,
world history could go in plot and places, and the specialty priests and deities could go in the house rule forum (a few at a time, for avoiding flooding the poor forum )


Chacal

Ok, you know what? I'll do that. It will have to be tonight - after I get home from work, then after I get home from class (IT by day, law school by night. ugh!)

The dieties are all actually still fairly generic, in that they are about things like Time, Justice/Revenge, Love, etc. I tried to make them all reasonably balanced, but really, some are better at certain things than others. Only a handful of them have been chosen by PC clerics, though there have been many more NCPs - some of which were foes. Brack being a particularly nasty one.

I am pretty sure I have all of that in a nice format for posting on file somewhere. I think I'll put it all in the house rules because it all goes together - the history includes mention of the origins of one of the dieties - kind of fun, actually - in the first campaign I ran in the world, an evil necromancer was trying to achieve god-hood - the history actually went far back on that one, and by the end of that campaign, which had the PCs facing off against him, he ended up succeeding, though the PCs managed to save their nation, which was the main issue they were dealing with. So my later campaign had him added to the pantheon. Then, in an ironic twist, in an even later campaign, one of the players from the first campaign made up a character who ended up being a cleric of that "new" diety.

One of these days I'll have to do a web page.

Back to the topic at hand - I defintely do not miss the vanilla 1e clerics - though I did have fun playing. I had much more fun making the speciality pantheon, and I think my players really liked that too. One of them really got into a cleric of a particular one - Morinda, who stood for Justice and Revenge, in the vigilante sense...

 

[Brennin Magalus]

yeah, i agree with you.

OD&D(1974) is the only true game.

Oh, I refuse to consider any version older than I am (I think 1E came out the year I was born). As far as I am concerned, OD&D belongs in the dustbin of history, along with cranberry bellbottoms, What's Happening, and Leif Garrett.

 

[diaglo]

Oh, I refuse to consider any version older than I am (I think 1E came out the year I was born).

at least you are willing to admit it.


i still own a Studebaker.

 

[widderslainte]

Since the subject line asked, no. I feel that the specilist clerics, while unbalanced, were the most interesting of the bunch. Giving heavy armour proficiency by default is a joke.

 

[Desdichado]

and you think it's gotten better, i got it, OK?

reverse your argument and take a look at where i'm sitting.

edit: my one voice of disagreement is not going to upset your applecart. so save your vehemence.

I think the question is, if that's how you feel, why are you sitting here on a 3rd edition board instead of on Dragonsfoot, for instance? If he went over there constantly dogging older editions of D&D, then you'd have a comparable situation.