Does poison take effect if bite did zero damage?

[Phlebas]

Did he have it be a fail has the result thing or was it just rolll (and you automatically make the save).

I don't see any reason that a DM couldn't make players roll saving throws even if they are immune to the results. It adds "tension" and a level of excitement to the game that otherwise might be missing. If the DM simply says "you are immune and don't need to roll" then where is the "suspense" in the game - it becomes too much like a computer game and less of a RPG one, IMO. Now this doesn't mean a DM "has" to do this but I can see advantages to doing it especially for the first few times that type of creature is encountered.

[Aside]
I still have a small bone lump on my finger after being pelted with dice by my players when they started breaking sticks trying to open a trapdoor and one said - "I hope its not a wand"

In my defense they were the ones who started rolling saves, but i might have played along a little too convincingly....

[/end aside]

 

[Kmart Kommando]

Did he have it be a fail has the result thing or was it just rolll (and you automatically make the save).

I don't see any reason that a DM couldn't make players roll saving throws even if they are immune to the results. It adds "tension" and a level of excitement to the game that otherwise might be missing. If the DM simply says "you are immune and don't need to roll" then where is the "suspense" in the game - it becomes too much like a computer game and less of a RPG one, IMO. Now this doesn't mean a DM "has" to do this but I can see advantages to doing it especially for the first few times that type of creature is encountered.

more like .."he claws at you ineffectively...make a fort save" :\ it's not about ruining the suspense, it's about screwing you over just because you were lucky enough to have a defense against a situation that doesn't come around every day. D%D is all about fighting something different every combat, so being immune to one thing at the right time isn't so easily accomplished at low levels.

I made all the fort saves vs the poison, but later got paralyzed at some point and spent the rest of the combat watching the rest of the party flail without their tank. Having fun and not being bored > chance of some suspense says I.

Maybe next time I attack something and miss, I should just say " I stab at him ineffectively, take 34 points of damage" and see how that goes.