Does SR protect your Mirror Images?

[Delemental]

Would the level 0 Sor/Wiz spell Message pop them as well?

No. Message doesn't cause damage, require a saving throw, or otherwise harm or hamper the target.

 

[ackron]

So wait a sec, you're telling me I can pop a Mirror Image with a Melf's Acid Arrow, but not with a fireball, because Melf's Acid Arrow is an "attack" and fireball is not?

How does that make sense?

 

[Hypersmurf]

So wait a sec, you're telling me I can pop a Mirror Image with a Melf's Acid Arrow, but not with a fireball, because Melf's Acid Arrow is an "attack" and fireball is not?

How does that make sense?

He's saying you can't pop an image with Fireball, because MI specifically states that area spells don't pop images.

-Hyp.

 

[Hypersmurf]

In a sense, yes. The wizard could point to the four targets for which the spell fizzled and say to the others, "That one, that one, that one, and that one are fakes."

It depends on whether you consider an invalid target to fizzle the entire spell, or just the portion targeted at the invalid target. There's certainly room to read that the whole spell fails.

If I cast Control Undead at three zombies and a goth, it's possible that attempting to include a non-undead creature as a target disrupts the entire spell.

Would the level 0 Sor/Wiz spell Message pop them as well?

Only if you use the 3E Main FAQ answer, that states that any targeted spell or ray spell destroys an image.

1. Magic Missile is a valid attack as far as the invisibility spell is concerned - casting it while invisible causes your invisibility spell to drop.

Hell, as far as the invisibility spell is concerned, detect magic can be a valid attack...!

-Hyp.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Hell, as far as the invisibility spell is concerned, detect magic can be a valid attack...!

Yep. But summoning a Balor and having it eat something isn't. Certes, the ways of magic are strange.

 

[Rystil Arden]

It depends on whether you consider an invalid target to fizzle the entire spell, or just the portion targeted at the invalid target. There's certainly room to read that the whole spell fails.

If I cast Control Undead at three zombies and a goth, it's possible that attempting to include a non-undead creature as a target disrupts the entire spell.



Only if you use the 3E Main FAQ answer, that states that any targeted spell or ray spell destroys an image.



Hell, as far as the invisibility spell is concerned, detect magic can be a valid attack...!

-Hyp.

Very true about the whole spell could fizzle clause. However, it seems that everyone here has already agreed to houserule that away

 

[ThirdWizard]

If I cast Control Undead at three zombies and a goth, it's possible that attempting to include a non-undead creature as a target disrupts the entire spell.

Dude! Give proper warning, I almost sprayed my keyboard with SoBe!

 

[Rystil Arden]

Dude! Give proper warning, I almost sprayed my keyboard with SoBe!

Goths are close enough to undead that I think the spell might work on them, if the DM is being lenient

 

[ackron]

What exactly is covered under "react beliveably" anyway? Are figments actually objects? Would they (for example) be oulined with a glitterdust or farie fire spell?

On a side note, Arcane Sight would be a pretty effective counter I would think, you should easily be able to pick out the real mage from is images by thier active auras.

 

[KarinsDad]

Only if you use the 3E Main FAQ answer, that states that any targeted spell or ray spell destroys an image.

I hate when they make up a brand new rule in the FAQ and then do not have the common courtesy of putting it into the next version of the game.

Aaarrrrggghhhh!!!!