D&D General DPR Calculations Wut?

[FrogReaver]

Basically I was right. You dont get much pushback now if you say CO is really good at least as far as damage dealing spells go.

Within the first few minutes of the video you posted, the specific case being made was ‘if you are a sorcerer and take 3 specific feats you’ll be a damage god’

That’s far from a generic ‘this spell is good’. When people talk about shield or hypnotic pattern or whatever they don’t caveat any of them with this spell is amazing when you take a bunch of feats and one specific class. They just say those spells are good, and this specific feature can make them even better.

Heck in one of the first sentences in the video he even acknowledges people overvalue CO because of its accuracy problem.

That video doesn’t align with your claims.

 

[Zardnaar]

Within the first few minutes of the video you posted, the specific case being made was ‘if you are a sorcerer and take 3 specific feats you’ll be a damage god’

That’s far from a generic ‘this spell is good’. When people talk about shield or hypnotic pattern or whatever they don’t caveat any of them with this spell is amazing when you take a bunch of feats and one specific class. They just say those spells are good, and this specific feature can make them even better.

Heck in one of the first sentences in the video he even acknowledges people overvalue CO because of its accuracy problem.

That video doesn’t align with your claims.

Irs really good for sorcerers and back wen I was talking aboutvit the context was Sorcerer.

We didnt deep dive into it as far as he has. His is optimused build.

We just used basic sorcerer and empower. And feats you probably woukd take anyway eg elemental adept (as a dragon sorcerer).

We didnt do the full build eg elven accuracy. We built a hybrid with scorching ray+hex and lightning bolt.

I know the theory craft that this video lays out.

So yeah when I was talking about it it was 1 feat. Used in real game.

When we theorcrafted him to abuse it further we covered what's in that video.

We did use empower and i saw it used on 3 different sorcerers. Once again empowers something you take anyway as a blaster.