Dragon #294 in today!

[Darkness]

Thanks for the heads-up on the stats, Rune!

Tharizdun
Str 23, Dex 29, Con 22, Int 44, Wis 39(19), Cha 31

Tharizdun has Wis 39 for spells and 19 for everything else, right? That is, his base Wis (i.e., before modifiers of the Madness domain) would be 29.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Rune mate!

Not a problem (still waiting for your book, by the way)

You and me both mate!

Divine Rank doesn't seem to be explained,

We have been debating its merits this past week in the Hercules thread:

http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5810

but you will notice that, in each of these examples, that number appears next to the type of deity, so I would say that they likely are a representation of power--like levels in deityhood, if you will--and that certain ranges indicate certain magnitudes of godhood. A Rank 15 Deity is an intermiediate god, and a Rank 17 is a greater god.

What are the Avatar Divine Ranks though!?

This settles an important point!

The gods are statted, by the way. I'll list them here:

Iuz
Str 42, Dex 24, Con 26, Int 24, Wis 31, Cha 24

Pholtus
Str 25, Dex 32, Con 25, Int 37, Wis 31, Cha 35

Rao
Str 28, Dex 29, Con 24, Int 30, Wis 44, Cha 30

Tharizdun
Str 23, Dex 29, Con 22, Int 44, Wis 39(19), Cha 31

Thanks so far Rune mate!

In fact how does Iuz get Str 42!? Could you list his Salient Divine Abilities please?

Keep in mind that the information that I've given you does not even come close to being complete. Each of these gods has a full write-up.

So I gathered. Remember Hercules and Hermes were revealed last week!

There are even a couple of new domains for Tharizdun: Madness and Force.

Force...interesting.

Apparently we don't know the power of the dark side...

 

[Glyfair]

Force...interesting.

Apparently we don't know the power of the dark side...

Force & Madness have both already been given to Tharizdun in the 3E module in which he appears (being vague to avoid spoilers - most of you know which, though).

I hadn't thought of being a cleric of an ethos. That could work, Tharizdun certainly has his own "ethos" to follow/lead.

Glyfair of Glamis

 

[drowdude]

Just got #294 in the mail today.... which is quite upsetting since I never received#293

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi drowdude!

Just got #294 in the mail today....

Feel free to type as you read!

which is quite upsetting since I never received#293

Call that upsetting!? I'm still waiting for #256!

 

[drowdude]

Ok lesseehere...

Iuz -- Demigod - Divine Rank 3 (no avatar)

Pholtus -- Intermediate God - Divine Rank 15 (avatar's Divine Rank = 7)

Rao -- Greater God - Divine Rank 17 (avatar's Divine Rank = 8)

Tharzidun -- Intermediate God - Divine Rank 11 (avatars's Divine Rank= 5)


Iuz's Salient Divine Abilities: Alter Size, Alter Form, Lay Curse, Wound Enemy.

 

[Vuron]

Well I suspect that Tharizdun cannot even manifest an avatar at all due to his bindings and that his stats represent a newly reawakened Tharizdun active on Oerth.

Does the information on Rao include the Crook of Rao?

Finally are the old rules about only demigods and quasi-dieties interfering directly still apply? One of the coolest features is that only those greater gods that existed primarily on the Prime could manifest and St Cuthbert.

 

[drowdude]

Well I suspect that Tharizdun cannot even manifest an avatar at all due to his bindings and that his stats represent a newly reawakened Tharizdun active on Oerth.

Nope, he has an avatar listed.

Does the information on Rao include the Crook of Rao?

It has something called "The Serene Staff of Rao" ... they describe it as a shepherd's staff... and stat it as a +5 holy lawful speed light mace; that can banish (as the banishment spell);project sympathy; and heal with a touch.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Thanks drowdude mate!

Ok lesseehere...

Iuz -- Demigod - Divine Rank 3 (no avatar)

Pholtus -- Intermediate God - Divine Rank 15 (avatar's Divine Rank = 7)

Rao -- Greater God - Divine Rank 17 (avatar's Divine Rank = 8)

Tharzidun -- Intermediate God - Divine Rank 11 (avatars's Divine Rank= 5)

Thats interesting!

Looks like my Avatar Divine Rank (half; rounded down) theory is confirmed Glyfair mate!?

Iuz's Salient Divine Abilities: Alter Size, Alter Form, Lay Curse, Wound Enemy.

I still don't see how he has strength 42!? Perhaps hes taking multiple Epic Feat increases to strength!?

Regarding Tharizdun I would have hoped that the Divine Rank 11 was the Avatar! Its a sad, sad day for fans of the Gord the Rogue novels to see te once mighty Tharizdun sunk so low!

 

[Vuron]

Well hopefully they have some flavor text that explains why a God that has been supposedly bound for eons and that every other god including nasties like Nerull and Incabulos fear getting free suddenly has the power to manifest himself on Oerth.

I'm not saying that Erik Mona and company don't have the right to change this plot point but that it would behoove them to explain the change.