Dragon #308 previews new ranger and barbarian!

[DonAdam]

+10 damage against a particular enemy at 20th level?

I might be replacing that with sneak attack, and give the option of picking a favored terrain instead and getting a +1 to AC in that terrain and the bonus to saves.

And he's still got those pesky spells... I guess I could just drop them and the virtual feats, bump the hit die, and give the BOHM bonus feats.

And yes, I am talking about house ruling it already.

I like everything else.

 

[Number47]

Well, I think we've learned everything we need to learn here. I'm locking this thread before it gets too out of hand.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

That is an interesting idea. Instead of an upgrade to his favored enemy every few levels, give him sneak attack upgrades.

That might be a bit too powerful though. Not to mention that he would be stepping all over the rogue's toes.

Really, at that point, why play a rogue?

 

[thalmin]

The only info on the bard:
some "tweaking"
"The bard's spell list changed significantly."

 

[Branduil]

Well, I think we've learned everything we need to learn here. I'm locking this thread before it gets too out of hand.

Which would be easier if you were a mod.

 

[Technik4]

Damn thats hot.

Evasion and Hide in Plain Sight? Are rangers assasins or woodlands guys? I hope HiPS specifies you must have some foilage or some kind of terrain to hide behind, as opposed to the shadowdancer's ability which is based off of shadows.

Favored Enemy bonus is really sweet now.

Sounds like it will be difficult to choose what class to play. Before a multi barb/rang/ftr was just fine, now barb and ranger have more attainable cool abilities earlier which makes mixing fighter levels hurt more. Kinda like the monk mixing fighter levels, you never wanted to because it means denying yourself cool monk stuff. All in all, woohoo!

Technik

 

[DonAdam]

That is an interesting idea. Instead of an upgrade to his favored enemy every few levels, give him sneak attack upgrades.

That might be a bit too powerful though. Not to mention that he would be stepping all over the rogue's toes.

Really, at that point, why play a rogue?

I wouldn't give the bonus against everybody, just against favored enemies.

The rogue gets a bigger bonus, and gets it against anything vulnerable to sneak attack.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

I wouldn't give the bonus against everybody, just against favored enemies.

The rogue gets a bigger bonus, and gets it against anything vulnerable to sneak attack.

Oh. I misunderstood. Carry on then.

 

[thalmin]

"Hide in plain sight Hide in natural terrain with no concealment even while being observed."

 

[The_Gneech]

Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't really away. That's the effect of the animal frienship spell, after all.

Well, that's as may be ... I haven't studied the 3e ranger spell list extensively (the only ranger in our group that has enough levels to get spells, already has a familiar from taking levels in sorcerer).

-The Gneech