D&D 5E Dragon+ Out June 28th with Ebondeath MtG card reveal


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Minc and Boo are in as is Xanathar and Asmodeus.

Tiefling as its own creature type is confirmed.

Dragon Knight is likely a Dragonborn. That could be Mehen.

The Venca creating thing could be the Hand or Eye of Vecna or a Phyalactory.

Bird Bear = Owlbear

Elf Spider = Drider

Human Elf Monk = Half Elf Monk, perhaps of Lovitar.

The [creatures name] card is likely some kind of Lich.

The Instrument I'm guess is Morningmist.

And finally guess is the new Enchantment subtype is either Mythal or Dungeon.
 
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Parmandur

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I’m betting that “something only seen previously in Un-sets comes to black border” refers to sub-decks, which will be where Dungeon cards go, same as Contraptions. Though, I also wouldn’t be surprised if it was dice rolling. Maybe both?
"Cards that let you decide where the story goes" ≈ Dungeon Cards? Or maybe "A new Enchantment subtype"? Or All of the above...?
 

Parmandur

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Minc and Boo are in as is Xanathar and Asmodeus.

Tiefling as its own creature type is confirmed.

Dragon Knight is likely a Dragonborn. That could be Mehen.

The Venca creating thing could be the Hand or Eye of Vecna or a Phyalactory.

Bird Bear = Owlbear

Elf Spider = Drider

Human Elf Monk = Half Elf Monk, perhaps of Lovitar.
I really hope that Dragonborn are Dragon type cards: that would change Dragon tribal in a great way.

A Phyalactory as an artifact that regenerates a powerful Lich token is a genius idea, I think you are right.
 







Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
I still don't think so, the bundle comes with over sized dungeons, that suggests they aren't even permanents, but more like Planes and Pheonemon cards.
That doesn’t follow. They’ve made oversized versions of regular permanents before - mainly creatures and Planeswalkers, but also some lands. What this likely indicates is that dungeon cards won’t go in your main deck. But that doesn’t mean they can’t have normal permanent types. Contraptions were artifacts.
 

That doesn’t follow. They’ve made oversized versions of regular permanents before - mainly creatures and Planeswalkers, but also some lands. What this likely indicates is that dungeon cards won’t go in your main deck. But that doesn’t mean they can’t have normal permanent types. Contraptions were artifacts.

Aren't contraptions silver border?

The over sized cards of permanents, like the Commander of a Commander Deck, are just for show, you can't actually play them.
 



Parmandur

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I still don't think so, the bundle comes with over sized dungeons, that suggests they aren't even permanents, but more like Planes and Pheonemon cards.
Thr suggests that they come from outside the Dwck, doesn't mean they aren't permanent. The fact that after one "Ventures" into a Dunfeon that it can be "Completed" does actually suggest that they are Enchantments that stay on the board similar to Sagas.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Thr suggests that they come from outside the Dwck, doesn't mean they aren't permanent. The fact that after one "Ventures" into a Dunfeon that it can be "Completed" does actually suggest that they are Enchantments that stay on the board similar to Sagas.
I believe @Henadic Theologian is saying they don’t think dungeons will be permanents - the category of card to which creatures, planeswalkers, enchantments, lands, and artifacts belong, not that they won’t remain in play “permanently”. While we haven’t seen cards that remain in play but aren’t permanents in any sanctioned format, we have seen them in variant formats such as Planechase.

I don’t think that’s what dungeon cards will be. But the idea isn’t totally without precedent.
 
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Parmandur

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I believe @Henadic Theologian is saying they don’t think dungeons will be permanents - the category of card to which creatures, planeswalkers, enchantments, lands, and artifacts belong, not that they won’t remain in play “permanently”. While we haven’t seen cards that remain in play but aren’t permanents in any playable format, we have seen them in variant formats such as Planechase.

I don’t think that’s what dungeon cards will be. But the idea isn’t totally without precedent.
Right, I got that. But I think it's fairly likely the Dungeon is a type of Enchantment, and nothing really militates against that hypothesis at the moment: they can be Enchantments that get Tutored/Learned from outside the deck pretty easily.
 

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