Dragonfire Adept - did D&D need another breath weapon class?

[Jedi_Solo]

Yes, too many breath weapon classes, especially when the latest one steps on the toes of the Warlock.

I don't this is stepping on the toes of the Warlock at all. Following in the design style of it, yes, but it is its own thing.

The Warlock has the benefit of range while this class (at first glance at least) is going to be more of a melee class (due to range of the breath weapon).

I see this as more of a test to see if the Warlock style can do more than just be a Warlock.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

The Dragon Disciple isn't usually taken for his breath weapon. That 1/day breath was near-useless before we got a dozen breath classes.

You use DD for the combat bonuses. You go very few levels of bard or sorc and then Fighter or stuff like that.

For instance, will anyone every feel like taking an Enchantment oriented Sorcerer again, since the Beguiler became available?

Of course not. But that's not because the Beguiler is so great, but more because the Sorcerer stinks. It was a last-minute addition to 3e after they went back to vancian magic (clerics with full spell lists and on-the-fly casting was a tad too good.), but didn't want to abandon the new system (or leave it only to bards). Warmages, Beguilers, Warlocks, this guy - they're what sorcerers should be in the first place.

 

[pawsplay]

I like sorcerers. They just need some bonus feats or something.

 

[Kurotowa]

It's basically the Warlock Mark II. The most problamatic Invocations were cut out, Eldritch Blast was switched for a breath weapon so it won't get Metamagiced anymore, and the fiendish flavor was changed to draconic. It might fix some of the problems everyone was talking about in the last Warlock thread.

 

[WarlockLord]

It's basically the Warlock Mark II. The most problamatic Invocations were cut out, Eldritch Blast was switched for a breath weapon so it won't get Metamagiced anymore, and the fiendish flavor was changed to draconic. It might fix some of the problems everyone was talking about in the last Warlock thread.

Then again, the Warlock still exists. They mostly copied the invocations word for word.

 

[lukelightning]

I like breath weapons better than the warlock blasts. The whole "untyped magical energy" of the eldritch blasts bothered me.