Dragonlance Dragonlance cataclysm and a bit about Paladine

[GMforPowergamers]

Not in the least. I just know LE when I see it.

did you just call me evil? and you tried to cover it with a wink emogi? I am getting sick of people taking personal pot shots!

 

[Scribe]

did you just call me evil? and you tried to cover it with a wink emogi? I am getting sick of people taking personal pot shots!

No, I think a view that there is only one way to interpret Good, and that removing Free Will/Choice, counts as Good in the effort to 'Prevent Evil' is both "One True Way"-ism, and would like the Kingpriest, and his views, be Lawful Evil.

 

[Reynard]

because the good alignment out of game says they wont... so gods that aren't good should/would/could gods that are good should be questioned VERY hard the same as if a PC of good alignment tried to kill a town to get the evil mayor.

Yeah, that's not a debate I am the least bit interested in. Alignment is dumb, for this very reason. If all there is are absolutes, nothing is true.

I will happily continue to believe that the "good gods" smashed Sodo--- er, Istar -- and still call them "good" while not giving two figs about how that reflects on my personal real world morality.

 

[billd91]

maybe if you see it come up time and time again you might consider there is a portion of the base that actually believes it.

It’s just the ol’ paladin trapfall writ large.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

No, I think a view that there is only one way to interpret Good, and that removing Free Will/Choice, counts as Good in the effort to 'Prevent Evil' is both "One True Way"-ism, and would like the Kingpriest, and his views, be Lawful Evil.

I did NOT take anyones freewill. I DID NOT advacate taking free will. I advacate 2 things...

1 either put a carve out in the gods "The good gods don't follow the PHB definition of there alignment"
or
2 have the good gods actually act good and not evil or neutral.

 

[Scribe]

I did NOT take anyones freewill. I DID NOT advacate taking free will. I advacate 2 things...

1 either put a carve out in the gods "The good gods don't follow the PHB definition of there alignment"
or
2 have the good gods actually act good and not evil or neutral.

Or perhaps your view on Alignment is not the one true way? Perhaps they did act Good, and it simply does not align with how you view it?

Not that there is anything wrong with a personal interpretation but maybe, just maybe.

There is no 'One True Way' to view Alignment, and "Good" and thats OK?

 

[darjr]

uh.
Ultimately it is just fiction. What more it's an RPG and we can change it however we want at our tables.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Or perhaps your view on Alignment is not the one true way? Perhaps they did act Good, and it simply does not align with how you view it?

how the PHB says it... and again if they put a carve out in saying the good gods get an exception that is fine too.

Not that there is anything wrong with a personal interpretation but maybe, just maybe.

There is no 'One True Way' to view Alignment, and "Good" and thats OK?

whats the matter is CONSTANT PERSONAL ATTACKS... like calling a poster evil

 

[Scribe]

uh.
Ultimately it is just fiction. What more it's an RPG and we can change it however we want at our tables.

Yep, and thankfully its more interesting than 'This is Good, its the only Good, and it has to be this kind of Good.'

 

[GMforPowergamers]

uh.
Ultimately it is just fiction. What more it's an RPG and we can change it however we want at our tables.

except when posters call other posters evil... that goes beyond the game and to personal attacks

 

[darjr]

bleh, edited out.

 

[Scribe]

how the PHB says it... and again if they put a carve out in saying the good gods get an exception that is fine too.

whats the matter is CONSTANT PERSONAL ATTACKS... like calling a poster evil

There was no personal attack. There was the behavior of the Kingpriest, that was pretty much textbook LE.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Because, on the internet, Good must be absolutely perfect or it’s not Good. It comes up time and time again on gamer boards and in alignment debates.

Are we so far fallen from Grace that mass murder is a minor imperfection?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

There was no personal attack. There was the behavior of the Kingpriest, that was pretty much textbook LE.

You called ME and my opinon evil (after putting some fake argument of mine into my mouth)

 

[Scribe]

You called ME and my opinon evil (after putting some fake argument of mine into my mouth)

No. I call One True Way, and the behavior of taking away free will and thought under the pretense of 'preventing evil', Lawful, Evil.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Are we so far fallen from Grace that mass murder is a minor imperfection?

I wonder how many would let a LG paladin kill a whole town to kill the mayor.

 

[Scribe]

I wonder how many would let a LG paladin kill a whole town to kill the mayor.

I suppose as many would call the removal of choice, Good.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I suppose as many would call the removal of choice, Good.

nobody I know does

 

[Scribe]

nobody I know does

Good to know. The world is full of them at this point.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

I think this discussion about the Krynn gods of Good taking out Istar and starting the Cataclysm reminded me of Tom Baker's Doctor - he had said in interviews he played the Doctor as an alien, with inappropriate responses to situations. We're talking about alien intelligences, these deities